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Post by Humph on Aug 2, 2024 20:42:45 GMT
Not out of any anti-progress or EV churlishness or anything, but I would freaking hate that. I drive the car, it doesn’t drive me. If I want any additional information I press the appropriate buttons. Otherwise I am happy to encourage the vehicle to do as it’s told.
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Post by WDB on Aug 2, 2024 21:06:07 GMT
I’m exaggerating a little — and because I sometimes leave the voice on to annoy MrsB1. She (Fräulein Navi) can be infuriating though on a long motorway leg when I forget she’s there and decide on a services stop. She wakes up and starts issuing panicky commands to ‘make a U turn’, ‘turn right and immediately turn left’, ‘sit up straight, stop scratching’ and there’s no easy button to silence her, especially as all I really want is someone to guide me in so I don’t end up in the caravan park.
This isn’t an EV thing, of course. It’s a modem car thing. It’s coming to all of us.
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Post by Humph on Aug 2, 2024 22:45:00 GMT
Maybe it was the same in your Merc, but on mine, if you prod the mute button on the dash or on the steering wheel while the nav is “speaking” it silences it until the engine is next started. Might be a similar thing on your new car?
It’s my default move mostly as I usually pretty much know where I’m going, but having the live map doesn’t hurt if I want it.
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Post by bpg on Aug 3, 2024 6:06:28 GMT
I'm struggling with tech at the moment, specifically new speed limits as defined by the car, Google maps, but not the local authority who sets them.
Driving back last week, where the A2 joins the A3 just east of Basel my car took off to 120kph. Google maps concurred. Seemed odd as all the local traffic was travelling slower. I braked just before a speed camera to below 100kph, no flash, after the camera 100kph sign. There were no signs between the motorways merging and the speed camera.
The usual disclaimer exists for these limiters. You, the driver, are responsible for all fines.
I found it strange how the car and Google maps both got it wrong though the trip did show me disparity between the two. On some roads the car was trying to brake to 70 while Google maps showed 120 or vice versa. Never a sign to indicate the lower limit, some roadworks ghosts I suspect. You can't trust the tech, not yet anyway.
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Post by Rob on Aug 3, 2024 14:24:26 GMT
My car's speed limiter sets the maximum speed you can travel at - and you set it manually although pressing the middle of the speed buttons on the steering wheel (RES for RESume) it will set the limit to the one the car thinks it is. Car will use traffic sign recognition and falls back on the maps which are out of date. So in Wales with blanket 20mph limits it will often think it's 30mph but you can set it to 20mph by using SET because that's the minimum.
Cruise control on the other hand does not use speed limits and just works at the speed you set.
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Post by bpg on Aug 3, 2024 14:58:42 GMT
Intelligent cruise control 'knows' the limit either through maps or the camera. You don't set it.
You can set a tolerance into the limit to allow for speedometer inaccuracy.
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Post by WDB on Aug 3, 2024 15:20:08 GMT
I find the idea of a device that will accelerate the car, other than as an immediate response to an input from the driver, alarming. The iX has one, as I discovered when I inadvertently thumbed one of the cruise control buttons in a busy area and off the car went. A touch of the brake pedal brought it back under control, of course, but it really shouldn’t have happened at all. I’ve since found the CC mode menu and set it to an option that will require more than an accidental touch to increase the speed.
The camera-satnav-tealeaves system it uses for determining the prevailing speed limit is so hit-and-miss that I couldn’t possibly trust it to choose my speed. I’ve seen 5 from a construction limit on the M1, 10 on a fast A road on passing an establishment with a rogue 10 sign at the entrance, and all kinds of random readings elsewhere. The one thing it does well is reading variable limits on motorway gantries, but it’ll take a lot more development work before I let it decide anything beyond whether or not to bong.
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Post by Rob on Aug 3, 2024 21:34:16 GMT
I have adaptive cruise which is fine for my needs - I set the speed and it will slow down if I get too close to the car in front. All three cars I've had with traffic sign recognition have got it wrong on occasion and all used a combination of cameras and the map data.
If I were to resume the cruise control set for a much higher speed then my car would set off but easy to disable with a button on the wheel or press the brake pedal. But I'd not want cruise to be 'intelligent' because it won't be.
I can't remember if it was the Skoda or BMW but once saw 110mph in a Tesco car park as the detected limit. And in the car park of the gym/hotel it always said 40 even though no road near the hotel was 40 and I don't ever remember seeing any sign that could have been misread. Indeed the limit was shown but too low for a system to really recognise.
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 3, 2024 21:49:12 GMT
Impressive figures obviously helped by the 50mph limit. It is interesting that the iX range meter appears to be more accurate or better, less optimistic than other cars giving you more confidence in your journeys.
I am going my annual south coast inspections at the end of the month so it will be interesting to see my overall efficiency with a mix of motorway and more rural A roads.
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Post by WDB on Aug 10, 2024 18:30:38 GMT
Admire it now WdB; it’ll never be so clean and shiny and unblemished again! Unless you are a detailing fanatic with all the time, tools, and various chemicals… It's certainly a bit less shiny now. Returning us home from a nice (entirely sober) lunch with an old friend, it was waiting at a roundabout give way line when it received a kiss up the arse from, would you believe, a black Audi SUV, which suffered barely a mark to its front. Mine was less fortunate, although the damage seems superficial. No human harm in either car. Sensors and cameras seem to be working normally.  Unambiguous admission of fault from the other driver and the other adult in the Audi, but much ballache of paperwork and repairs now to go through, not to mention having to detail this at every insurance renewal for the next five years. Bugger. |
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Post by Humph on Aug 10, 2024 19:35:37 GMT
Shyting rowlocks WDB ! That is so annoying for you. Proof positive that it’s almost always a sodding Audi that is being driven too damn close behind. Glad no blood spills of course, but sheesh eh?
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Post by Humph on Aug 10, 2024 20:02:14 GMT
…and, not that you should give this a second thought of course, why would you indeed, but, damage like that, until it’s fixed, could, in fact most probably would, easily be mistaken for the sort of thing that could be found on the rear of a car belonging to someone who has difficulty reversing.
However, I’m sure you won’t let such trivial matters bother you. Gosh no.
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Post by WDB on Aug 10, 2024 20:41:14 GMT
Yes, quite to both points. Certainly wouldn’t want to be thought of as the latter type — although, like all of us, I don’t give a damn what anyone else thinks.
Extra galling is that, after six weeks and 2,000 miles, I felt I’d just about completed bonding with the car. I’ve found the seating position that suits me — the final touch was pulling the wheel out a little farther, which seems to prompt me to something good with my spinal posture. And I’ve really started to feel I’m driving the thing, not just operating it. And when I do that, it feels really, really good.
We were north of Oxford today, on the eastern edge of the Cotswolds. Some nice A-roads there, but some slow traffic too, with a couple of occasions demanding vigorous acceleration to overtake. Only, in the iX, it doesn’t feel vigorous: squeeze the pedal at 45 and the next look at the HUD shows, erm, 75 officer. All accompanied by no noise at all. It’s very different from the i3, whose shove is strong up to about 60 but then diminishes to something closer to ‘adequate’. But I’ve not yet found the end of the iX’s acceleration, and it’s so quiet that it’s an entirely different sensation from pressing on in the CLS — although that has paper values for 0-62 and bhp per tonne that look very similar. It wouldn’t surprise me if the iX’s 30-70 time was half the CLS’s. And remember I have the povvo, low-powered model.
Ah well, a week of courtesy car awaits. Slightly relieved now that I don’t have to go to a meeting in Cheshire on Monday.
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 10, 2024 21:27:33 GMT
I can think of many reasons to avoid Cheshire. Certain retired people live there, driving polluting old diesels....
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Post by EspadaIII on Aug 10, 2024 21:32:31 GMT
That is so annoying Dubya; on your new motor. At least it wasn't self inflicted.
I ventured into an Audi dealership yesterday for a look at their latest EVs. The new Q6 is about the same size as the iX but almost Tesla like in its lack of buttons, so not for me. The Q4 was very disappointing in terms of value and lack of excitement. I was so glad to get back into the I5, which offers far more tech and a more pleasant environment to sit in. The salesman came out to have a look and I think I managed to sell him a car!
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