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Post by bpg on Mar 29, 2024 2:21:02 GMT
Why ? Does carbon fibre door sills make it something special ? Bit of a waste given that carbon fibre has 14 times the emissions of steel if the aim of the game is to be seen as saving the plant. The epoxy resin is the bad boy.
If you've never been to Sunderland then BEHOLD, you're in for a treat.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 29, 2024 9:46:28 GMT
Especially if you like football... although perhaps treat is not quite the right word.
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Post by WDB on Mar 29, 2024 18:52:52 GMT
Why ? Does carbon fibre door sills make it something special ? Bit of a waste given that carbon fibre has 14 times the emissions of steel if the aim of the game is to be seen as saving the plant. The epoxy resin is the bad boy. The i3 has visible carbon fibre door sills too, which is (to me) part of its future-starts-here charm. The iX is a bit different, built in a different plant to a hybrid aluminium-CFRP design. I can’t confirm your 14x steel figure (OK, maybe I can. This looks worth a careful read: www.researchgate.net/publication/282853443_The_manufacturing_energy_intensity_of_carbon_fiber_reinforced_polymer_composites_and_its_effect_on_life_cycle_energy_use_for_vehicle_door_lightweighting#:~:text=A%20review%20of%20commercially%20available,is%20only%2050%20MJ%2Fkg. You do, of course, need far less CFRP than steel to do the same job, so MJ per kg may be a little misleading.) but what I understand is that BMW uses carbon fibre made with hydroelectricity and aluminium smelted with solar electricity, although both are then shipped to Germany for manufacturing. The epoxy resin is added there, and baked at just 120°C, which doesn’t sound like it would challenge a press shop or a steelworks for energy consumption, so does the curing process release a vast amount of CO 2? BMW’s own claim is that the lifetime (including manufacture) CO 2 emissions of an i3 are less by a third to a half than a 118d, itself a green award winner back in the day, while the iX’s are 45 percent lower than the — admittedly not hard to beat — X5. And any iX I might buy has already been built, so the saving I can influence is the operating difference between it and the rather inefficient CLS. Of course, the same applies to the steel-bodied but smaller and still more efficient iX3 — but that doesn’t have frameless windows. Doesn’t mean I won’t still end up with one, of course, but indulge me while I enjoy this latest little thought experiment. 😊 Incidentally, parked near the venue for my Reading appointment on Wednesday was a gleaming bright blue Renault Avantime, another piece of technical wackiness I’ve previously coveted. I suspect an iX might be an easier thing to live with, if not always to park.
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Post by dixinormus on Mar 29, 2024 20:11:52 GMT
S’funny - I don’t remember car buying being this difficult in our younger years. Something new would be released, you’d simply want it more than anything else, and you would go about trying to get one!
Sounds like there just isn’t anything you really fancy out there WdB?
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Post by WDB on Mar 29, 2024 21:10:16 GMT
Fancy? Plenty, and new stuff coming out all the time. Fancy and consider value for money? Not so sure but I’m enjoying auditioning them.
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Post by bpg on Mar 30, 2024 7:22:55 GMT
Have any of the cars you've tested been fitted with ISA ? www.brusselstimes.com/855280/self-braking-cars-all-new-cars-to-be-fitted-with-speed-limiting-technologyCompulsory from July this year some manufacturers have fitted it already, though may not have activated it yet. Since July 2022 all new cars have had a black box mandated though suspect most of the cars owned/driven here have had them since 2017. Both the Ford cars I've had since 2017 have had flashing dashboard warnings regarding posted speed limits. I updated my 2020 Focus on Friday night from USB stick which failed and broke the intelligent cruise control, it defaulted back to active cruise which maintains the speed set only slowing for other road users. Another download and quarter of a tank of petrol fixed it. 😳 I think I'll try to keep my old Volvo going for as long as possible. Not because I'm doing anything wrong but I do have an issue with all the data being collected and what it is being used for. I don't live in a city, congestion is not an issue for my journeys, where is my off button or opt out ?
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Post by WDB on Mar 30, 2024 7:34:10 GMT
Certainly had the speed limit warnings in the iX3 and the Polestar 2. Haven’t yet noticed an active intervention from the car. Of course, as an above-average driver (like you, Humph and everybody else) I’ve never needed one. 🌟
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Post by Humph on Mar 30, 2024 7:40:19 GMT
I’d say I was more of a legend than merely above average really. If I was being a little modest. 😎
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Post by bpg on Mar 30, 2024 11:04:32 GMT
Of course, as an above-average driver (like you, Humph and everybody else) I’ve never needed one. 🌟 How's that for a kick in the plums. As if a deity who hasn't taken a driving test is somehow anyone's equal behind the wheel 🤔 they could be but they haven't proven it.
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Post by Rob on Mar 30, 2024 17:53:46 GMT
There is a YouTune channel with someone who does a lot of EV reviews and has done a lot of 'let us run it flat' (takes a backup battery or two usually). I'm sure you've seen him. And he's done reviews of older cars, especially Teslas, where the battery has deteriorated. The Vw e-Up! didn't have particularly good range to begin with.
I still think the major breakthrough with EVs will come when we see the next generation battery cell technology.
Slightly off topic. In the windy weather recently, the three wind farms off north Wales were mostly static. Presumably because we didn't need their electric. Which to me says we need to store that energy ... not necessarily in a big battery. It would make sense to give us all batteries at home but still charge us when we took power out of them after they charged cheaply... And not just at night. When the next set of bigger turbines are built alongside Gwynt y Môr (which is itself 576Mw) there will be over 1Gw I believe.... and the newer farm will have fewer turbines but produce more electric.
I think the new one is Awel yo Môr. Half of Wales could be powered when it's windy.... Plans to run a new grid connection from north to south Wales to move the electric to where more is needed.
It's progress.
Back to Audi's.... I like Audis. My dad had one a few years before he died. That one was a 70s rust bucket (it was sort of rust coloured anyway) and the bonnet would fly up when driving at speed.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 30, 2024 20:25:51 GMT
The recent OTA update to the I5 came with much binging and bonging for speed cameras. Driving along a motorway, especially later at night when people in the car are trying to sleep is deeply irritating. Not sure I can turn it off permanently,
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Post by bpg on Mar 30, 2024 21:42:15 GMT
ISA can be switched off apparently but must default to on the next time the car is started. So no, you can't permanently disable it.
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Post by bpg on Mar 30, 2024 21:53:07 GMT
There is a YouTune channel with someone who does a lot of EV reviews and has done a lot of 'let us run it flat' (takes a backup battery or two usually). I'm sure you've seen him. And he's done reviews of older cars, especially Teslas, where the battery has deteriorated. I'm trying to work out what the benefit of such a test is. Lithium Ion batteries don't like being run flat. Your mobile phone manual tells you that as does the app for my EV. Once the battery is below 20% the app flags it as needing a recharge. That's like saying let's drain all the oil out of your petrol engine, run it with no oil, and see what happens when the manual tells you don't run it with the oil pressure light on.
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Post by Rob on Mar 30, 2024 22:24:26 GMT
>> That's like saying let's drain all the oil out of your petrol engine, run it with no oil, and see what happens when the manual tells you don't run it with the oil pressure light on.
Not quite. Running it below 20% every now again should be okay otherwise the car should have a default safety level and not allow you to use it. If it is not possible without damage then don't allow it.
Run an ICE to empty and you risk all the crud in the bottom of the tank ending up blocking the fuel lines/injectors.
End of the day if the last 20% shouldn't be used, it should not be included as part of the range calculation.
Back to second hand cars... how do you know it's never been used 100% to empty a lot of the time?
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Post by Rob on Mar 30, 2024 22:30:33 GMT
Back to the question of why run it flat? The manufacturer quotes a max range which includes 0-100% battery. New it will be greater than pre-owned. So to show how they have degraded needs such a test surely? It's not as if they are doing to all the time. Just seeing how far it can really go, i.e. max range.
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