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Post by WDB on Nov 30, 2023 15:08:22 GMT
…which in this case are for Royal Racism Row (or possibly Revelations.) You don’t have to know much Dutch (I don’t, but a little German helps. I call her Helga) to pop the word ‘koninklijke’ into Google and read the results.
No doubt it will all be fine, nothing to see here. And, in truth, it’s hard to have much sympathy for either side in the Duke of Sussex affair. (Why are second-tier royals always named after pubs?) But it’s probably fair to have less sympathy with the side that’s openly racist.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 1, 2023 11:19:55 GMT
Frankly it is a storm in a teacup. The Duchess is on the make and tries to find a racist slight in everything negative that happens to her. I am not surprised at the question of what their firstborn would look like. It happens in all families where there are parents of different races/ethnicities. And Meghan is only half black anyway and so her children are a quarter black. So she is playing the race card to get money.
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Post by bromptonaut on Dec 1, 2023 15:11:57 GMT
I can entirely understand that the way on which genetics determine skin colour in a mixed race couple, particularly where one of them (the Duchess) is mixed race herself is a matter of interest. Could Archie have been darker than his Mum?
That's not racism.
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Post by WDB on Dec 1, 2023 15:56:44 GMT
It is if it’s presented as a problem. It seems to have been more than casual musing about height or hair colour.
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Post by Rob on Dec 1, 2023 19:56:23 GMT
They probably wanted to know if he'd be a ginge. Is that racist?
I think genetically anyone of mixed race could have a child that is closer to an ancestor in colour... unlikely but possible. So someone fairly light could have a darker child.
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Post by dixinormus on Dec 3, 2023 3:52:10 GMT
Can we just deprive that Scobie person of oxygen?
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Post by Alanović on Dec 4, 2023 8:31:30 GMT
Ah, blame the whistleblower, not the actual problem. OK.
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Post by WDB on Dec 4, 2023 9:32:19 GMT
He’s not behaved exactly honourably, has he? Expecting us to believe that the Dutch publisher translated “The nun returned the stirrup pump to the planetarium” as “The king and his daughter-in-law are rampant royal racists” isn’t super-credible.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 4, 2023 11:29:00 GMT
Well this is what you get when you elevate people to the status of demi-Gods on the basis of who they were born to, and hand them unlimited privilege and secretive power. You get an absolute circus surrounding them.
Time to be rid has long since passed.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 4, 2023 12:27:03 GMT
i disagree (well I would). I don't want a political Head of State (Macron/Biden) and I don't want a political has been or non-entity (Germany/Ireland). There is no gravitas. All these people are 'come day; go day'. If I want someone to open a museum, or a hospital etc I want someone who represents the whole country without any baggage. And frankly I think Kate, Sophie and Camilla and their husbands are doing just fine. If Meghan had understood and accepted her role she would have been a marvellous asset to the Royal Family and the UK - it would show that being 'Royal' is not a matter of birth but of manners and also that colour of skin is irrelevant to being 'Royal'.
There is also a deeper issue. The Kings of Denmark and Bulgaria refused to kowtow to Hitler regarding the Holocaust and it was only because they were Kings that gave them the power to do so.
So I am for the Royal Family because the alternative would be just awful.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 4, 2023 12:47:49 GMT
Gravitas? No Baggage? In the context of a discussion about them being probable racists? Our current Head of State is an intellectual pygmy with so much baggage he'd be getting charged a fortune if he flew Ryanair instead of using private helicopters at our expense to fly from Windsor to wherever he's bothering his bone idle arse to visit on any given day.
It's not about opening museums...who needs someone with "gravitas" to open a museum anyway...it's about having a fit and proper, accountable individual at the top to act as a backstop against corrupt and over-reaching governments who operate in bad faith and seek to undermine the rule of law and remove any accountability from themselves, of the kind we've been suffering since June 23rd 2016. Germany and Ireland and Finland and Iceland have this, and I envy them for it. The only true power our current Head of State has is that which enables him to ensure his own privilege, influence and wealth is ring fenced from accountability. It stinks.
Is it just me? I think it must be just me...meanwhile they serve as a soap-opera quality distraction for the masses, whilst our government rides roughshod over us.
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Post by EspadaIII on Dec 4, 2023 13:17:37 GMT
I don't think Michael O'Higgins is capable to withstanding the efforts of various politicos in Ireland to screw their citizens. So don't envy the Irish, have sympathy for them and even more when the terrorists take charge.
In the meantime, no one pays to see Mr O'Higgins but they pay handsomely to visit Buck House and to buy magazines etc. The Royal Family bring in so much money they are an income generator for the UK. Lose them and your taxes will rise whoever you vote in.
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Post by Alanović on Dec 4, 2023 13:29:48 GMT
Utter myth. Open "Buck House" to tourists, and all the other public buildings they greedily hoard for themselves, and we'll make far more money, like the French do from Versailles etc. The Monarchy is a net burden on public finances, and a barrier to earnings from tourism.
Your comment about Michael O'Higgins is quite revealing. It shouldn't matter which "name" is in the hot seat, it should only matter that the role exists as a constitutional backstop to nefarious governance, alongside of course a judiciary properly fenced off from the government - something our current government is actively seeking to undermine, without any mechanism to stop them.
Stop focusing on personalities, and get a fit and proper constitution in place. The rest follows. The Muppet Show on the Mall is neither fit, nor proper.
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