bpg
Full Member
Posts: 2,809
|
Post by bpg on Jul 30, 2022 15:41:14 GMT
After the recent trip back to the UK with my family I now find: Newcastle Brown Ale is brewed in Tadcaster or Amsterdam McEwan's Export is now brewed in Wolverhampton or København.
I remember the Scottish & Newcastle (S&N) Tyne Brewery near St. James' Park, the Newcastle offices being over the road from the corner of the Gallowgate End and West Stand of the ground. All long since gone. My father worked for S&N.
The Export tastes reasonably close to what I remember, the Dog however has mellowed from a die hard brew into something very bland. Things ain't what they used to be.
|
|
|
Post by dixinormus on Aug 4, 2022 7:23:50 GMT
Everything’s been homogenised and globalised in our lifetime hasn’t it? That German SUV now made in America, that Boss shirt now stitched in China,…. Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be.
|
|
WDB
Full Member
Posts: 7,425
|
Post by WDB on Aug 4, 2022 9:29:18 GMT
Ikea. Everywhere. I have a couple of Billy bookcases I bought in 1993. Heavy, hefty things, held firmly together with dense diecast metal fittings. Still solid, almost 30 years on. More recently, to accommodate MrsB1’s collection of one billion books (which, apparently, is still not enough) we’ve bought several of the current iteration. They’re crap, lightweight chipboard and plastic fittings. They rock and wobble and don’t stay square. But they still have the same name, so must still be good value, right?
Old Speckled Hen. Once a distinctive product made with the chalky downland water of the town where I went to school, now just a label on a major-corporate brew.
Policemen. Don’t they look young? And when did AA patrolmen stop saluting? 😛
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 9:46:23 GMT
They used to make Citroens and Peugeots in the UK decades ago. We're just being fed endless clickbait outrage propaganda, laser targeted at the boomer generation, on the blasted Faecesbook amongst others, about how everything was better way back when. Well, we in Britain are getting a practical real time reminder of what life was like in the 1970s and earlier by dint of the economic and travel sanctions we've imposed upon ourselves, and let me tell you, I far prefer the practical modern arrangements we had before 31st January 2020.
Things were being "globalised" by the British Empire, amongst others, centuries ago.
I really am heart sick of all this disinformational hogwash, and the seemingly endless capacity for the terminally gullible to consume and regurgitate it.
Stuff changes. Mostly things change for the better. Until, that is, a certain government in a certain country decided to have a certain referendum and run it so badly and allow such illegality and disinformation to swamp us that reason was lost and forces of hatred prevailed, which has triggered the greatest regression, in so many ways, any of us are ever likely to see.
Beer? there is so much more choice and so much more qualiy out there now than in the 80s. McEwans Export and Newky Brown were always absolutley awful beers, products of the rush to keg by the goliath brewers in the 60s. I genuinely couldn't care less if I never saw either of them again.
|
|
|
Post by EspadaIII on Aug 4, 2022 11:32:58 GMT
I hate the rush of modern life. Just because you can email someone now, doesn't mean they can or should respond immediately. Lawyers are the worst. Sending emails seeking a valuation, literally yesterday with no explanation or apology for sending the email a month late and then ringing wondering why you can't go this afternoon. It is genuinely the case that 1,000 lawyers under the sea is a good start.
Modern communication is great but people need to realise that the human body and brain does not work any faster.
What communication has done is enable small, niche producers to grow a business rapidly through word of mouth/social networks and therefore create a more viable and mixed economy not based around ultra-large businesses or civil servants, all of which are union controlled and therefore inefficient.
|
|
WDB
Full Member
Posts: 7,425
|
Post by WDB on Aug 4, 2022 12:39:00 GMT
…ultra-large businesses or civil servants, all of which are union controlled and therefore inefficient. I know that’s the gospel according to Charles Moore but where’s the evidence for it?
|
|
bpg
Full Member
Posts: 2,809
|
Post by bpg on Aug 4, 2022 12:54:06 GMT
Yeah ! Stuff changes Al, not always for the better as we are now living. 31st Jan. 2021 has sailed. On the plus side neither of us will need pay for visa paperwork to visit EU or UK from next year. There's a Brexit bonus for us but not holders of a single country passport.
Modern beers, mass produced reproducible kits churned out by anyone with space.
Sometimes I like to step back and enjoy something from yesteryear. No, I wouldn't thank you for ANY car from the 70s. Newky Brown ? Hmmm.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 13:23:58 GMT
I was thinking more about the range of Real Ales available these days, which certainly can't be produced in the way you describe, BP. I'm not hugely invested in the latest wave of "craft" beers. Lots of small breweries around the country now offer home delivery, so it's easier than ever to get a wide variety of excellent beers for home consumption.
As a teenager when I first started visting pubs, choice in this area was pretty much limited to the unspeakably bad Morland (sorry, WDB, their stuff was mostly undrinkable in my humble), Courage and Ind Coope keg beers. Brakspears were fine. Moving north for University was a revelation, although Nottingham was still plagued with the keg bitter bilge from Home, Shipstones and Kimberley - but it was close enough to Yorkshire to get plenty of proper creamy northern bitters with a proper head (i.e. Theakstons, and, from Lincolnshire, Batemans).
These days it's night and day. It's hard to get a bad hand pulled beer, although I appreciate Young's efforts to pollute London with revolting emetics.
|
|
|
Post by EspadaIII on Aug 4, 2022 15:11:24 GMT
…ultra-large businesses or civil servants, all of which are union controlled and therefore inefficient. I know that’s the gospel according to Charles Moore but where’s the evidence for it? Nothing to do with Charles Moore. Just try to work in the private sector and deal with companies that are very large, frequently PLCs that were previously in state ownership, or based around that form of bureaucracy (Housing Associations/Utility companies etc). We have to deal with these people daily and it is impossible to make any progress in less than three weeks when a decision is needed in the next two days. They ring us up to talk about an unpaid bill for a building we may manage. But when we ask what buiding they are referring to they won't tell us because of GDPR. GDPR rubbish! It's nothing to do with GDPR - you rang us; get off your backsides and do your job... The waste of effort is appalling.
|
|
WDB
Full Member
Posts: 7,425
|
Post by WDB on Aug 4, 2022 15:28:21 GMT
I don’t see any evidence there that it’s caused by unions. Correlated, maybe, but not caused. Just as likely it’s to do with the essential nature of services that used to be in the public sector; housing and water require more care and consumer protection (‘red tape’ if you’re that way inclined) than, say, fashion.
|
|
bpg
Full Member
Posts: 2,809
|
Post by bpg on Aug 4, 2022 21:18:54 GMT
I was thinking more about the range of Real Ales available these days, which certainly can't be produced in the way you describe, BP. I'm not hugely invested in the latest wave of "craft" beers. Lots of small breweries around the country now offer home delivery, so it's easier than ever to get a wide variety of excellent beers for home consumption. It's a horses for courses thing, I prefer a cold glass of something that is quenching in this heat, not a pot of soup. I don't drink much beer when it's cold but everyone has different tastes and requirements. With regards to Dog I think it was the water that made the difference. The Amstel and Wharfe are not the Tyne. It's funny both my wife and I go straight for a cold glass of water when we get "home". I find Edinburgh water very chlorinated whereas Kielder water is very fresh to my palate. I couldn't drink the tap water when I lived in London, Sheffield water tastes of lead from the pipework or did 20 years ago.
|
|
|
Post by dixinormus on Aug 5, 2022 1:19:21 GMT
I think there’s a general apathy everywhere tbh, in both the private and public sectors. Covid is a great excuse for any individual or organisation who are failing in their day-to-day obligations and/or can’t be bothered to improve themselves.
And how many civil servants still resolutely refuse to cease WFH and go back to the office?
Airlines, airports and hospitality laid off low-paid staff at the start of 2020 and now wonder why they can’t get people back working for them…
Hardly any business or organisation is currently running at 100% capacity at the moment, and it’s unlikely to change anytime soon 😬
|
|
WDB
Full Member
Posts: 7,425
|
Post by WDB on Aug 5, 2022 9:19:11 GMT
IAnd how many civil servants still resolutely refuse to cease WFH and go back to the office? Are you Jacob Rees-Mogg? Why pick on civil servants? The world of work has changed and it won’t change back for a long time, if at all. Meanwhile, covid infections are at around 5 percent, while the hospitals (not much WFH there) are still struggling to catch up. The pandemic showed that home working is entirely viable for much of the economy, so what would be the benefit of forcing people back into crowded trains ten times a week? MrsB1 has covid this week, probably caught from another passenger on a train last weekend. She’s OK enough not to miss anything I do wrong, and Boy2 and I seem not to have got it yet.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 9:56:49 GMT
Still WFH here, and I had to cross town from my extreme northerly habitation to the Nissan dealer at the extreme south, at rush hour time yesterday afternoon. I'd forgotten what a hellscape it is. It took me over half an hour to do the 5 mile journey. Sitting in a jam on a congested dual carriageway really brought it home to me how I, the environment and my workplace are benefitting from me working from home. It made me wonder how many of the vehicles around me could have been removed from that congestion, and the pollution saved, by people not being forced into offices by incompetent presentee-obsessed managers.
|
|
|
Post by dixinormus on Aug 7, 2022 0:05:25 GMT
Of course many people can and are WFH guys, but some jobs need to be done on-site. I can’t imagine that many civil servants are processing passport applications from home, or that they even care that the process is now taking weeks.
The traffic you were sat in Al probably wasn’t office drone commuters. Lots of folk don’t work in offices. Probably factory and shift workers, the non-workers heading to the malls and coffee shops, and the WFH’ers nipping out to do errands because they can, now that they WFH!
|
|