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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2022 19:15:58 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61045825Was she breaking the law? No. Would every one of the baying crowd do the same if they could? Damn sure they would. So why should the howling media lemmings masses force her into changing her behaviour? Mind you, what a naïve pillock he must be not to realise that this would happen.
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Post by bpg on Apr 10, 2022 7:02:10 GMT
What have comedy and politics got in common ? Timing.
It's part of daily life in the vipers nest. They all have something on someone it's just a question of how thick the skin and how desperately they want something (and who's in their corner). Just look at Teflon Boris, nothing sticks, for now. His time will come when he's served his purpose. The stuff that's been thrown at him and he's still there, it must be real doozy stored up for when they want him out.
Someone obviously feels threatened by the current chancellor and, of course, will deny being the source of what is being reported in the press.
During my adult life I've seen three rounds of long term leadership under two different parties 2x conservative, 1x labour (by long term I mean over a decade). In all cases they self destruct. Do they run out of ideas? get bored? backers have new agendas? Who knows, there's all as bad as each other and sadly do not appear to have interests of the UK at their core.
Recent bleatings in the Daily Express have been to remind how the UK has the 6th biggest/richest/whatever you want to call it economy in the world. Driving around Surrey yesterday avoiding the M25 car park, they hide it well. Money is not spent on the road infrastructure - there are now craters in the roads not pot holes - the grid is struggling, telecoms are way behind SE Asia, so where is all this money in the 6th largest economy ?
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Post by Humph on Apr 10, 2022 7:40:58 GMT
Which car did you bring this time bpg?
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Post by bromptonaut on Apr 10, 2022 9:03:26 GMT
He is the man who sets taxes for the rest of us. For good reasons, financing the NHS, he has increased taxes for ordinary people. He has however done so using a device, NI contributions, which affect working people rather than Income Tax which has a broader base and bears more heavily on the well off.
He's in the hot seat at the time of the biggest energy/inflation crisis in 50 years. His mini budget did nothing for the poorest in society, those on benefits and unable to work going instead for a reduction in fuel duty.
He and his wife are, by anybody's standards, extremely rich. It is, at it's most neutral, a bad look that his family's finances are arranged so that, albeit entirely legitimately, they avoid paying millions in UK tax. When a leak which some say was from No10 makes the facts public his initial response based on his wife being a citizen of a country that does not allow dual nationality was disingenuous. While Domicile and Nationality may well be inter related they're separate concepts.
Her Non Dom status is a matter of choice not circumstance.
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Post by EspadaIII on Apr 10, 2022 10:31:25 GMT
It was legal and 99.999999% of the people in her situation would do the same. All the morons who are enjoying this all have tax efficient pensions, ISAs etc etc so they are a bunch of hypocrites.
I doubt his wife's status had any effect on his decision in the Spring Statement. She is an Indian citizen who owns shares in an Indian company and pays tax in India. She isn't a crony of Putin. This attack on a family member of a politician is unfair and frankly is starting on the rabbit hole that leads to the murder of MPs.
I have nothing but sympathy for her and her children. I am not a billionaire and cannot imagine a life in which I did not need to work, but as a business owner, I will do everything in my power to pay as little tax as legally possible - I have and do use every loophole my accountant suggests to me - and I have no shame whatsoever. If the goverment want's more money from me it will have to legislate to do so. She should be able to do the same without fear of jealous idiots.
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Post by bpg on Apr 10, 2022 17:07:22 GMT
Which car did you bring this time bpg? The ST estate. Only used 2½ tanks of 99RON 😖 Brilliant car for the trip, so much power and torque now it has the full RS pack. |
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Post by WDB on Apr 11, 2022 6:47:40 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61045825Was she breaking the law? No. Would every one of the baying crowd do the same if they could? Damn sure they would. So why should the howling media lemmings masses force her into changing her behaviour? Did she do anything wrong? Legally, no. Did he fully declare his interests, before making decisions that benefited his wife personally? This, from a year and a half ago, suggests not: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/27/huge-wealth-of-sunaks-family-not-declared-in-ministerial-register Sunak is bound by the ministerial code, which requires him to declare any financial interests that are “relevant” to his responsibilities, and which could conflict with his duty to the public. Ministers must also declare those interests of their close family, including siblings, parents, spouse and in-laws, which might give rise to a conflict.
But Sunak’s entry mentions no family members other than his wife, and only refers to her ownership of a small, UK-based venture capital company. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 10:36:27 GMT
I cannot get over excited at the idea of the Guardian casting aspersions at a Conservative politician. Anyway, I don't really care much either. He got voted in, he can get voted out, he's a politician, and can die by the sword for all I care.
It is the hypocritical sanctimony of the whiners that gets my goat. And the stirring, vultures of the media.
Nothing illegal, nothing that each and every one of the lemmings wouldn't do, just the chance to attack someone else.
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Post by WDB on Apr 11, 2022 10:41:03 GMT
There’s quite a difference between ‘casting aspersions’ and reporting facts, as here. This is a deeply corrupt government and, while Sunak is far from its worst offender, the code is there to protect good governance and democracy, and those who fail to respect it must face the consequences.
Sunak won’t, of course; Patel and Johnson are ahead of him in the corruption queue and neither has yet shown a shred of remorse, never mind paying the penalty. But he may decide political life is unnecessarily uncomfortable for a man of his means.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 10:52:38 GMT
>>There’s quite a difference between ‘casting aspersions’ and reporting facts, as here
Indeed. But not a difference I would expect the media to grasp. And, as I said, I don't much care about Sunak. It is naive to think that one party hs better morals, or higher integrity, politicians are, as a generalisation, a type.
What get's up my nose is the noise from the hypocritical, the resentful, and the stirrers.
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Post by EspadaIII on Apr 11, 2022 11:13:40 GMT
The hypocritical, the resentful, and the stirrers are the ones who stop the good people from becoming policitians. The country needs able administrators, decision makers, who can see the need for a policy and get it through the massed ranks of treacle eating civil servants (Home Office and Ukraine refugees anyone??).
Sunak appears to be the right sort of person. Clearly able; no need for corruption as his family has way too much money to even think about it; and has a vision. We might not like his Spring Statement, but the country needs money otherwise who will pay for the effects of Covid?
Hence I dislike many of the Labour and Liberal front benches as they can only shout and a scream but have never done anything that proves they can run a paper shop let alone a government. Sunak has that experience. The real stars of all parties are the quiet, thoughful back benchers (like the late lamented David Amess and the not late but excellent Frank Field) who really could get things done, but realise it is just too hard. Every democracy is going the same way unless anyone standing for parliment is at least 30 years old with proper work experience well away from unions or politics.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 11:26:51 GMT
Sunak? Experience? He's a hedge fund dweeb FFS, what's that got to do with good government? Anyone with pretentions of financial expertise who thought Brexit was a good idea for our national economy shouldn't be allowed to run a lemonade stand, let alone become Chancellor of the Exchequer. Honest to God. He is only where he is because the truly capable people in the Conservative Party got purged and are no longer there.
Why the insistence that someone who has run a business is properly experienced to run a government and a national budget? Surely the two things are far removed from each other?
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Post by bromptonaut on Apr 11, 2022 15:45:06 GMT
AIUI Non Dom status is about stopping foreign investors who reside here to do entrepreneurial stuff from being dissuaded by having their foreign income taxed in the UK.
Mrs Sunak, arguably an Indian Entrepreneur, might just be the sort of person for whom the status was invented. What's more surprising is that Sajid Javid, Rochdale born son of a bus driver, was a Non Dom.
Some coverage is mixing it up/conflating with people non resident for tax (eh Lewis Hamilton) which is not helping clarity.
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Post by bromptonaut on Apr 11, 2022 15:46:54 GMT
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