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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 9:22:52 GMT
Perhaps a diseasel (Euro 6) wouldn't be the end of the world. There are many more of them around.
DPFs, tho. Ad Blue, tho.
Gah.
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Post by WDB on Apr 12, 2024 9:56:08 GMT
No, it wouldn’t. It would emit less CO2 in its time with you than a petrol equivalent. Although I’d be suspicious of all the gubbins (or, indeed, gibbons — thanks, Autocorrect) in a Euro6 diesel. Humph seems to have got on all right with his — until, of course, he didn’t.
I’ve had no problems with my two DPF diesels. I caught the BMW one doing a regen one evening as I got home. No indication inside but the blast of hot air as I opened the door was unmistakable. That car did about 200 miles a week, mostly M4. The lower-mileage CLS must have done some regens but I’ve never noticed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 10:05:35 GMT
My diseasel reticence centres around local particulate emissions and the probability of blanket diesel vehicle bans in cities which I may wish to visit in the not too distant future.
I still think I prefer petrol or PHEV.
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Post by WDB on Apr 12, 2024 10:08:27 GMT
Yes. Only you have an EV for cities, which is also how a Euro5 diesel has remained suitable for me till now. But of course, using what we have is a different matter from deciding to take one on now, especially since the youngest Euro5s are now nearly ten years old.
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Post by bpg on Apr 12, 2024 10:24:56 GMT
I wouldn't be put off by AdBlue. Yes, it's another layer of maintenance once every 10,000 miles or whatever, it's hardly onerous. You could even become addicted to filling it up, driving to your mother's and back, and still having half a tank of fuel.
My own experience of diesel cars is they don't stink if they're maintained. The only time I've seen black smoke out of one of my cars was when the intercooler split. New intercooler, normal service resumed.
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Post by WDB on Apr 12, 2024 10:28:32 GMT
Yes, agreed on the last point. Although the silver E220 did have a blackish stain on the bumper above the exhausts by the time it left us at 93,000.
(Just checked and it’s still out there in the 130s. It’s done more miles since I sold it than I have in the car that replaced it. (Although strictly that was the i3 🤓)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 10:56:58 GMT
The Civic already does Mum and back on just over half a tank. I would expect a petrol Superb to be similar. My E320CDi had a habit of belching black smoke intermittently, but as we all know that was a nail. As was the (still much lamented) SAAB 9-5 2.2TiD. Don't know what's happened to my Merc now, MOT History Check says: Yes, that's the correct reg.
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Post by bpg on Apr 12, 2024 12:01:00 GMT
No idea why details would be withheld. Previous cars of mine which have been scrapped still show the details up to that point, my existing car still shows history up until I exported it...odd.
Looks like my old S60 was sold at the end of March then taxed for a full year beginning of April. Last MOT threw up some minor maintenance issues, will be interesting to see what happens at the MOT this year when it will be 20 years old with 300,000+ miles.
I suppose a Superb petrol will still have more than half a tank if it has a 15 gallon tank Vs the 11 or so gallon tank your Civic probably has. My Focus could possibly manage a 400 mile round trip, you'd be on fumes at the end. Best I've managed on a single tank of fuel in it has been 36.7mpg, it has a 52litre tank. 27mpg is more normal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 12:06:19 GMT
I think I said this already but I recently did the 405 miles from Lomondgate Services to home, with 100 miles showing remining on the dash in the Civic when I got here. 50 Litre tank. I think that's pretty frugal for a 1.8 N/A petrol with a near full load on board. Was on cruise at a satnav 70 most of the way.
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Post by Humph on Apr 12, 2024 12:07:54 GMT
Diesel still makes a bit of sense if you’re going to use the big car for long European trips. I keep wavering, but I strongly suspect I’ll just keep mine now until one of us expires. Been out on a mud, tree and fine view seeking bike trip today and it is such a perfect platform for that activity.
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Post by Humph on Apr 12, 2024 12:11:51 GMT
One of my old Mondeo estates (a 2002 diesel) is still showing as active and had 328,000 on it at its last MOT. Must be pretty knackered you’d think, but maybe not.
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Post by dixinormus on Apr 13, 2024 0:33:07 GMT
I wouldn’t buy a diesel in Al’s shoes. As alluded to, half of the city councils in Europe see them as easy prey now for a clean air charge, levy, entry ticket etc.
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Post by WDB on Apr 13, 2024 6:25:07 GMT
Easy? Or just necessary? The harm done in populated areas is a matter of scientific and legal record. It shouldn’t take the threat of charges to stop us taking polluting vehicles into such areas.
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Post by bpg on Apr 13, 2024 19:05:18 GMT
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Post by bpg on Apr 13, 2024 21:11:27 GMT
Coming back to the thread title, it's not just the UK secondhand market that has gone berserk. I priced up a new motorbike today as my GSX-R is giving me a bit of a kicking when I ride it, brilliant bike (which I will never sell) but I'm getting on a bit and started looking for a sports tourer rather than an out and out road rocket. >€20k for a Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ with a few options ticked.
Edit: to put that into some kind of context, I bought my bike, new, 12 years ago for a bit over £8k. That would put a Golf GTi at around £17k 12 years ago, a new Golf GTi 35 in 2012 was £27k.
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