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Post by WDB on Jul 15, 2021 18:43:58 GMT
Home now and it acquitted itself pretty well. Last night’s Brighton charge failure meant that we needed a 90-minute / 10kWh plug-in to a free 7kW charger at Tesco in Lewes to get home after today’s peregrinations. (Best not to ask about the peregrinations themselves; two places of interest to MrsB1 that were, in the first instance, made tolerable by the personalities of some of the volunteer guides, and, in the second instance, really not tolerable at all.)
Anyway, we had an oddly-timed but welcome lunch-tea in Lewes, bought some beer from Harvey’s brewery shop, then drove the 90 miles home in one go. Not even the M25 gave us any trouble
Brighton was nice. I’d happily go there again. And clearly the Type 2 cable is OK.
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Post by bpg on Jul 15, 2021 20:26:53 GMT
The Kia can take 10kWh from a 50kWh DC charger in 12 mins. Not cheap but 12 mins vs 90 mins and no Tesco, got to be worth it for the number of times you do public charging ?
We've got the Shell NewMotion chip for such occasions.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 15, 2021 21:24:31 GMT
Hence my decision to wait for the Hyundai and its 350kWh ability (where available) such that a fast charge of 20% - 80% (about 45kWh) would take about the same time as getting a coffee and 'having a wee'.
Wish they would pull their finger out and get them to the dealers for a drive.
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Post by bpg on Jul 15, 2021 21:34:36 GMT
I'd have to have long hard look at the Ioniq 5. It has extended the range of our eSoul by 16 miles, faster charge and I can power my micro wa vey in my tent which I've never in my cream puff ever needed to do. How much is one ?
If I can get free charging with used Tesla Model S I think my money would go there...
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Post by WDB on Jul 15, 2021 22:10:16 GMT
The Kia can take 10kWh from a 50kWh DC charger in 12 mins. Not cheap but 12 mins vs 90 mins and no Tesco, got to be worth it for the number of times you do public charging ? Yes, yesterday’s Gatwick charge was 50kW DC, £4.36 for 20 kWh, about a third more than my domestic rate but, of course, delivered where and how I needed it. I’d have paid for another CCS charge today but there simply wasn’t one. There was nothing all on the bungalow coast of Newhaven and Seaford, where I have a family connection and would have liked to stop for tea, hence the make-do (but free) option in Lewes. |
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Post by bpg on Jul 15, 2021 22:17:40 GMT
That's where Shell's and others have to fill the gaps.
Not taking the Michael, vehicles need charging wherever they need replenishing. Petrol and diesel have the advantage now. Electric or hydrogen or whatever will replace carbon fuel sources today.
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Post by bpg on Jul 15, 2021 22:33:22 GMT
Maresfield has 50 & 150 chargers available. However, regardless there is a gap in the South coast, other regions are fooked at present if the South coast is representative.
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Post by WDB on Jul 16, 2021 6:51:59 GMT
That's where Shell and others have to fill the gaps. Yes. Chargers need to be aggregated in clusters, so that users don’t have to drive around looking for a vacant one. This worked at Tesco — four pillars, each with two outlets, but only 7kW — but it’s difficult if you want the time benefit of CCS. I hope that as the demand becomes impossible to ignore, the likes of Shell and BP proper (rather than the BP Pulse network I subscribe to but don’t much like) will convert some of their forecourt real estate from fossil pumps to CCS. It should be good business in terms of supplying the refreshments and distractions users will buy while they wait. Related to a previous thought, the i3’s efficiency worked in our favour yesterday, a relatively small amount taking us over the threshold to ‘enough to get home’ (with about 25 miles in hand, as it turned out.) We couldn’t have done that in an iPace or an Audi, which would have required nearly twice the time to achieve the same effect. |
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Post by Humph on Jul 16, 2021 7:43:42 GMT
...or if you'd had to make a 26 mile detour...
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Post by WDB on Jul 16, 2021 7:56:23 GMT
…we’d have used one of several reliable charging locations we know closer to home. We took the quickest route (A23-M23-M25-M4) not the shortest. The car would have found us an ‘EcoPro’ route for minimum consumption if we’d asked it.
Seriously, this isn’t aviation. How many stacked what-ifs do you expect to be provided for?
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Post by Humph on Jul 16, 2021 8:58:03 GMT
Glad you enjoy it.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jul 16, 2021 9:30:29 GMT
I'd have to have long hard look at the Ioniq 5. It has extended the range of our eSoul by 16 miles, faster charge and I can power my micro wa vey in my tent which I've never in my cream puff ever needed to do. How much is one ? If I can get free charging with used Tesla Model S I think my money would go there... Ionic 5 from about £40k - £50k. There is no longer any free charging with Tesla unless you have a car from the time they did it. |
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Post by Rob on Jul 16, 2021 13:10:17 GMT
Apparently you used to be able to get free charging if you had a referrer code from someone that has the free charging. That's what my brother told me but maybe even that has changed?
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Post by dixinormus on Jul 16, 2021 13:22:31 GMT
Not really painting a reassuring picture though are you WdB?! Issues with 2 public chargers on your outgoing journey, necessitating the worry/inconvenience of an additional 90 mins stop on the way home (when the journey time is probably only 2 hours?)!😬
Sounds like the infrastructure needs another couple of years yet!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 13:35:45 GMT
I know lots of people (particularly the fleecy kind) plan their ICE journeys around the cheapest fuel stations. Go out of their way to get to them etc, look up in advance if there's a Tesco in Welshpool or wherever so they can get ClubCard points, that sort of thing. I do similar if I'm going to need a public charge, I look up my favourite charger network locations (i.e. the most reliable and those with contactless card payment - don't care about price in the slightest) and aim for them.
Not a big deal really.
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