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Post by Humph on Jan 21, 2021 16:00:35 GMT
Range y'see... 😎
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Post by Humph on Jan 21, 2021 16:04:06 GMT
...but, you'll more likely find that you'll want 3 cars, friends of ours tried the sharing thing with their teenagers. Nearly ended in violence. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 16:14:33 GMT
Not really, more about capacity. If I had an MG5 estate (or a Tesla S), I wouldn't need the Leaf and the Honda. That would do everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 16:16:29 GMT
...but, you'll more likely find that you'll want 3 cars, friends of ours tried the sharing thing with their teenagers. Nearly ended in violence. 😉 I doubt that very much in our case. Mrs A hardly ever drives anywhere. Neither will I if I'm WFH and the lad drives himself/sister to school. All our socialising is either local enough to walk/taxi, or we'd take the train so we can have a glass (Mrs A has started drinking again after a 10 year hiatus). Neither of use are even remotely interested in going "shopping".
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Post by Humph on Jan 21, 2021 16:22:47 GMT
You may find that he becomes like a cat once he's 17/18, likely to disappear for days until he gets hungry. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 16:26:13 GMT
Whilst this is true, we live in a town, near the centre and all his mates (and his likely, er, overnighting requirements) are round the corner. I am not convinced we'll need 3 cars, which is why I'm so hesitant to end up with 3 when in actual fact 2 is overkill at the moment and is likely to remain so. He may not even need one to go to University, we won't know until the University location is decided.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 16:34:29 GMT
I should probably buy the lad something like the Suzuki/Tipo and get myself one of these: www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011246442919Hand the Civic back to finance these. Then the "wife's car" is the Leaf. Upgrade that to an MG5 in a few years and bin the Lexus. It's either that or ropey old banger for the lad and keep the Civic and Leaf. Plenty of time to decide.
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Post by Humph on Jan 21, 2021 16:36:25 GMT
Well, something to consider maybe, but my son's university wouldn't allow anyone in halls to have a parking permit. So, in his first year, he couldn't take his car.
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Post by Humph on Jan 21, 2021 16:41:32 GMT
Oh, and, while we've been lucky so far, because he drives his Aygo like Dick Dastardly ( says he doesn't but I can hear him coming from half a mile away before he slows down ), so far, he's not bent it, but new drivers quite often do. Think I read somewhere that 70% of them do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 16:41:35 GMT
Yeah hence part of the hesitancy (University halls thing).
The Mrs just took the dog to the vet in the Leaf. First time a car has been used this calendar year I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 16:42:01 GMT
Oh, and, while we've been lucky so far, because he drives his Aygo like Dick Dastardly ( says he doesn't but I can hear him coming from half a mile away before he slows down ), so far, he's not bent it, but new drivers quite often do. Think I read somewhere that 70% of them do. I did.
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Post by dixinormus on Jan 21, 2021 21:48:10 GMT
Can’t go far wrong with that Suzuki. Think they cost around 13 grand brand new. Had one as a loan car a couple of years back, no complaints at all. Any nearby dealers for servicing?
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Post by Avant on Jan 21, 2021 23:08:05 GMT
No solution is ever going to be perfect, Al, but you can avoid having 3 cars by:
- getting him lessons with an instructor on a manual car and taking his test in same; - at the same time giving him practice in the Civic or the Leaf, so that right from the start he can drive either manual or auto without any worries; - letting him use one of yours when he passes his test. He probably won't use it much as if he's socialising he'll prefer to drink. And I doubt he'll need a car at university even if he's allowed one.
I didn't buy a car until my last couple of weeks at Cambridge in 1969 - suitably an Austin Cambridge, 14 years old for £65 and it never let me down.
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Post by dixinormus on Jan 21, 2021 23:25:19 GMT
Why even learn in a manual? EVs aren’t manual. And more and more ICE cars have auto boxes these days anyway. Manual is becoming a rarity down under, as I am sure it already is in North America?
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Post by WDB on Jan 22, 2021 8:00:33 GMT
The affordable, maintainable cars a young graduate might want will be mostly manual for several years yet, so it still makes sense to have a licence with that option. It’s only a little extra work, and the mechanically-minded — like one of mine — will find it a satisfying thing to master.
Roll forward a few years and it will cease to matter, of course. Exactly when, I’m trying to work out. Suppose we buy a first car when it’s, on average, six years old. It may be 2036 by the time all cars that age are electric, although I think natural market momentum will make if sooner — say 2031. In which case, those born from about 2010 onwards needn’t bother learning to drive anything else.
What may bring that date forward is interest rates. If they stay as low as they are today, there’ll be very little incentive to save up and commit a capital sum to buying a car, and young people will lease instead. That takes my six-year assumption out of the equation, so the last manual drivers will have been born in 2004. Boy2 was born in 2003.
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