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Post by EspadaIII on Jun 24, 2024 11:40:53 GMT
Yeah - my antecedents are too remote to get an EU passport. Lots of friends who are children or grandchildren of Holocaust survivors are now citizens of various Eastern Europan countries and travel overseas on their EU passports. Another friend is Irish and her children only use their British passport to enter Britain, otherwise they only use their EU passports.
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Post by Humph on Jun 24, 2024 11:53:29 GMT
Our plan was to buy a flat to keep a UK address and a small property somewhere nice on the Mediterranean coast of France and sort of flit back and forth as required. Maybe we can get somewhere near to that arrangement if we try harder. Dunno.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 11:58:28 GMT
I more of the mind that owning a property abroad might become a drag in terms of maintenance, security, local taxes etc. And it's always in the exact same place. I think I'd rather rent for a couple of decent length visits a year, and then you can mix up the locations/countries a bit too. AirBnB makes this really easy and can be quite cheap these days, outside peak season, which is the time of year I most like the climate in the UK anyway.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jun 24, 2024 12:01:48 GMT
A former colleague has a place in Portugal. Seems to work for him, spending several months there each year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 12:18:58 GMT
This place, for example, would be £870 for the entire month of January next year. £32 a night. www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/54348335My retired motorhoming friends are currently paying £42 a night for a pitch in Austria.
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Post by Humph on Jun 24, 2024 13:02:59 GMT
I suspect that we’ll now end up being more nomadic by default. I think we’re likely to be on the fringes of the Med in June and September and somewhere further away a couple of times in the winter months. Health and wealth permitting of course. Take our chances at home in July and August when it’s expensive.
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Post by WDB on Jun 24, 2024 13:09:55 GMT
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Post by EspadaIII on Jun 24, 2024 13:22:28 GMT
It does worry me about swathes of cities being denuded of residents to make way for tourists. It takes the heart out of a place when no one local is going about their business and of course pushes up housing prices for those same locals.
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Post by Humph on Jun 24, 2024 13:24:29 GMT
Don’t worry, it won’t happen in Bury! 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 13:27:02 GMT
It does worry me about swathes of cities being denuded of residents to make way for tourists. It takes the heart out of a place when no one local is going about their business and of course pushes up housing prices for those same locals. I don't think it's much of a problem in Gozo. Your man with a holiday home in Portgual, which is presumably empty the vast majority of the time, is surely more of a problem.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jun 24, 2024 14:32:59 GMT
I wasn't having a go about Gozo... It is pretty quiet during busy seasons. But major cities do suffer greatly. A purpose built holiday complex is fine as tourism is a economic driver in the Algarve but shouldn't be at the expense of the resident's abiilty to live a reasonable life. For me, a trip to a city is partly also about staying in a hotel and relaxing. Don't see the point in doing an Airbnb in Paris.
I am doing my annual South Coast trip in late August and staying in two Airbnbs in Christchurch and Penzance. In both cases they are annexe's to existing residential accommodation so not affecting the local population.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 14:36:50 GMT
I hate hotels. I like to self cater. Particularly in the scenario I'm talking about, i.e. retired and staying somewhere for a month or more maybe. AirBnB can be in purpose built holiday complexes too, if you're concerned about impacts on property for locals.
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Post by Humph on Jun 24, 2024 14:50:47 GMT
Actually, your theory helps me a bit Al. Being retired usually means having a predictable fixed income and if one were to choose to spend say £5000 a year on various air b&bs instead of a lump sum rather larger than that on a holiday home, then even over 20 years or so it’s still not a king’s ransom. Ok it’s money spent rather than invested, but doing it at that stage of life it feels less foolish. Spend the kids inheritance etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 14:53:46 GMT
Precisely.
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Post by Humph on Jun 24, 2024 14:56:35 GMT
…further to. My brother in law has an F off caravan. £50k+ worth and a new VW Toerag to haul it about. I get it at one level, and they do use it a lot, but the money tied up in the ‘van, the car, the maintenance, storage etc would buy a lot of air b&b time.
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