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Post by Alanović on Jun 30, 2020 12:10:47 GMT
Well it's doing a shit ton better than the lump of scrap metal from Germany I had before.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 30, 2020 12:13:47 GMT
Yes, but, with a CLS, you don't need as much room for shoes. As long as you're wearing a pair of grey slip on ostrich print loafers with a little gold trim, you really don't need anything else with you. A few silk shirts in unfortunate patterns maybe, but they fold away to nothing. 😅 ....got to find space for the safe for the medallions, though. Different one for each day of the holiday.
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Post by Alanović on Jun 30, 2020 12:22:09 GMT
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 30, 2020 12:59:36 GMT
...if you're up at that size and price, then wait for a bit more depreciation and go for this: www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201909051878633Much better underpinnings, and a top-rated converter. Having said that, they're both too big to be anything but static Gin-palaces (suits you sir!), but at least the Concorde has space for a little runabout to explore in.
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Post by Alanović on Jun 30, 2020 13:34:06 GMT
Hmm. Getting a car in it is quite a spectacular facility, but I was thinking space for a couple of electric bikes would be enough for local travel.
What's wrong with the Dethleff's underpinnings? Looks like a FIAT, so similar to yours? What's the other one running on that's so superior?
My retired friends live full time in a 2011 Concorde Credo. They're very happy with it. Even when it's parked in Maidenhead, as it is now.
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Post by WDB on Jun 30, 2020 13:49:18 GMT
Well it's doing a shit ton better than the lump of scrap metal from Germany I had before. It wasn’t scrap when it left Germany, was it? The trick is not to wait until someone else has turned it into scrap before buying it. 🙃 ..got to find space for the safe for the medallions, though. Different one for each day of the holiday. Fair point. But that can take the space I don’t need for a bucket to catch my tears of disappointment and shame.
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Post by Alanović on Jun 30, 2020 13:53:31 GMT
EIII did that, and it's turning to scrap before his very eyes.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jun 30, 2020 14:54:13 GMT
No - not scrap... In fact now I've actually pumped the tyres to the correct pressure (doh!) and park it on level ground it feels and looks a lot better.
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Post by Alanović on Jun 30, 2020 14:59:19 GMT
Sounds a worry, though.
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Post by EspadaIII on Jun 30, 2020 15:15:17 GMT
I will be leaving the car again tomorrow night for however long a period... This time the tyres will be pumped up a little higher to avoid flatspotting and I did a good run yesterday so should start up again when I get home as long as its not much longer than eight weeks. Was just over seven weeks last time.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 30, 2020 15:34:16 GMT
What's wrong with the Dethleff's underpinnings? Looks like a FIAT, so similar to yours? What's the other one running on that's so superior? The Ducato maxes out from the factory at 4000kg GVW (4250 if you're lucky). That Dethleffs is running at 5000kg after it's been tinkered with (part of that being the tag-axle Al-Ko chassis - and I don't like tag-axles). Frankly, I think it's pushing it too far. The Concorde is based on an Iveco Daily chassis, that leaves the factory rated at 6500kg, and that's what Concorde leave it at. More robust build (though probably more 'commercial' to drive as well). I much prefer the twin rear-wheels doing their factory-designed job to the tag axle. Regardless of the GVW, the dethleffs has little more usable payload than my 'van, which has a GVW of 3500kg. It's a big gin-palace, but you can't (legally) carry much more than I can (payload disappears quite quickly when you're carrying full water tanks!). The Concorde does a bit better for payload, but adding a Smart car is going to eat quite a bit of that.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jun 30, 2020 15:36:58 GMT
I will be leaving the car again tomorrow night for however long a period... This time the tyres will be pumped up a little higher to avoid flatspotting and I did a good run yesterday so should start up again when I get home as long as its not much longer than eight weeks. Was just over seven weeks last time. I might have missed it, but presumably SWMBO tested negative?
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Post by WDB on Jun 30, 2020 15:38:44 GMT
...for flat spots? Let’s hope so! 🤓
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Post by Alanović on Jul 1, 2020 7:57:01 GMT
What's wrong with the Dethleff's underpinnings? Looks like a FIAT, so similar to yours? What's the other one running on that's so superior? The Ducato maxes out from the factory at 4000kg GVW (4250 if you're lucky). That Dethleffs is running at 5000kg after it's been tinkered with (part of that being the tag-axle Al-Ko chassis - and I don't like tag-axles). Frankly, I think it's pushing it too far. The Concorde is based on an Iveco Daily chassis, that leaves the factory rated at 6500kg, and that's what Concorde leave it at. More robust build (though probably more 'commercial' to drive as well). I much prefer the twin rear-wheels doing their factory-designed job to the tag axle. Regardless of the GVW, the dethleffs has little more usable payload than my 'van, which has a GVW of 3500kg. It's a big gin-palace, but you can't (legally) carry much more than I can (payload disappears quite quickly when you're carrying full water tanks!). The Concorde does a bit better for payload, but adding a Smart car is going to eat quite a bit of that. I see. I think. I have much to learn. Like what is a tag-axle? Like not showing Mrs A golden gin palaces which she now has her heart set on...oh well at least 6 years before this goes anywhere, probably longer.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jul 1, 2020 8:29:29 GMT
I see. I think. I have much to learn. Like what is a tag-axle? In motorhome parlance a tag-axle is the extra trailing axle on the rear that exists on your Dethleffs example. Required to get the axle weights for such a long/heavy vehicle down to a manageable level (largely, though not entirely, due to the maximum possible loading on the tyres which are available for such a vehicle). That particular vehicle will be built on a Ducato which left the factory at a design maximum of around 4T but little of it will still be Fiat (A cab floor, instrument panel and front wheels with an aftermarket, tag-axle chassis bolted on, and all the rest of the bodywork including front cab and windscreen added by Dethleffs. Then uprated beyond the 4T. The Concorde on the Iveco uses an original chassis rated at 6.5T, with twinned rear wheels (outer and inner on same axle as you see on many commercial vehicles) to overcome the same weight problem. Stuff of that size isn't particularly good for touring (especially out of places like Germany, where the infrastructure is slightly better for such size). If you're happy to sit on a site for weeks, then the large gin palace makes a bit of a statement, but it isn't really "motorhoming", and in practical terms a large 4X4 and caravan would be better, and probably cheaper. If you want to explore a bit, but still be comfortable, 7-7.5 metre is really the benchmark. Going over 3.5T has implications for tolls, speeds, restrictions etc. abroad; going under has implications on payload. (Everyone really wants a Tardis in the motorhome community).
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