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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 13:13:06 GMT
I don't know if Djokovic is anti vax or not. I don't care much either.
He bangs on about free choice not to have THE vaccine. Well there is free choice. As he has shown. The fact that it will restrict his ability to travel, or to compete, is part of that free choice.
He does seem to feel that the freedom is only his. That he can make whatever decision he wants about vaccines but that Governments may not.
Ain't reality a bitch.
Once he's off the front page, which is mostly now, he'll only be hurting himself as his sponsors lose interest, the prize money stops, and he starts sliding down the rankings. I fully expect an announcement along the lines of "The vaccine companies have informed me as I publicly demanded so I have agreed to be vaccinated" fairly soon.
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Post by dixinormus on Feb 16, 2022 17:33:40 GMT
Fair enough Mr. Chile. His choice, his consequences. None of us should really GAF, although since he’s a famous person guess he was always going to make the news.
I suspect he hasn’t gone through this charade voluntarily; there was probably a stuff-up somewhere between his agents, the Tennis authority in Australia, and/or the State and Federal governments.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 17:47:01 GMT
You make a good point. Everywhere I said "He" I should have said "his team".
I think in his position things are inevitable, even if he started out sweet as pie;
1) The needs/wants of the team become integrated with one's own. However only the sportsman is the *visible* valuable talent/attraction, so everything else is dependent on their existence, popularity and success. I an sure that every member of the team then tries to make themselves essential by presenting their version of the world to the talented one.
2) Inevitably one becomes used to the world bending towards one's needs/wants. One never queues, one never waits, one never gets frustrated with customer service, one starts to see oneself as 'different' to other people.
3) One can pay to make things go away.
I have no clue how one copes with that without becoming at least some level of a princess.
As a businessman with a fairly large and uncontrolled expense account I saw the very smallest glimmer of that, and occasionally one finds oneself not behaving well. I cannot imagine the impact if it becomes a full time way of life, and one's own wealth not a company's.
So I have no knowledge of what the bloke is like, and little interest. He just needs to suck up the downside of what he and his team choose to do and not seek any special tretment, particularly in the context of sometrhing which has caused so much pain, anger, resentment, fear and suffering.
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Post by Rob on Feb 16, 2022 18:11:40 GMT
Assuming having the vaccine is a requirement for most major tennis tournaments this year then he is going to drop rankings. And not being in the spotlight probably lose sponsorship deals. He's certainly going to win less prize money. But he's got plenty.
I would have thought his drive/desire to be the best of all time would mean he'd just get the vaccine. He's not getting any younger and soon there will be someone younger who is beating them all. Inevitable.
It's his choice. As for what happened in Australia I think his team and Tennis Australia missed the big problem of entry to Australia. He got a let into the tournament and into the state but he could only get into Australia realistically if he was vaccinated. If this was an Australian tennis player that was unvaccinated it would have been okay because they would have been given permission to enter the state and play. He however could not enter Australia.
... and I still think his test results are dodgey as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 18:20:31 GMT
>>I think his team and Tennis Australia missed the big problem of entry to Australia
The fact that all the Australian organisations they dealt with said it would be ok may have lulled them into a false sense of security. Even the Government only reacted because the media and it's lemmings started wailing.
But he made a choice, he should have seen the risk, now he can suck it up.
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Post by dixinormus on Mar 10, 2022 19:01:59 GMT
The NZ government has suddenly revised its statistics to reflect deaths from Covid (as opposed to with Covid, like the fugitive shot dead by police a few months back who was counted as a Covid death).
Less than 40 people. In 2 years, during which time the government has spent in excess of 40 billion quid on Covid relief measures....
Soon to face inflation at 7%, fuel up 40% in weeks, and interest rates heading for 5%, with the economy still hampered by Covid passport requirements, how will the economy ever recover?
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Post by Rob on Mar 10, 2022 19:06:12 GMT
But if they hadn't done what they did - how many would have died from Covid? And how many would be suffering long term effects of having had Covid?
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Post by dixinormus on Mar 11, 2022 5:54:58 GMT
Meh! Rob. I’m sceptical. Yet now we have a country of barely 5 million people repaying $40bn?!
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Post by bpg on Mar 11, 2022 8:39:37 GMT
$40bn sounds like a lot to mere mortals whereas it's a rounding error on a government spreadsheet - unless you owe them 2 cents in underpaid taxes.
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Post by WDB on Mar 11, 2022 9:57:30 GMT
Erm, not when it’s $8,000 a head! 40bn NZD is 21bn GBP, enough to run the NHS for two months.
It’s a mistake to say that a small number of covid deaths in NZ proves that the strict precautions were unnecessary. They may well have been, but that isn’t your evidence.
Remember 2000, when no major systems failed because of the ‘Millennium Bug’? Tabloid commentators took that to mean there’d never been a threat. There very much was, but it was identified and dealt with. Much harder to do that with covid, of course — mainly because in 2020 there were no means to deal with it. I suspect we’re not yet ready to say which countries overreacted and which were lax and complacent.
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Post by bpg on Mar 11, 2022 10:14:41 GMT
Can kickers don't worry about $8k/head, that's what your children are for.
Happy inheritance kids.
Edit: while that was a flippant response there are always going to be the unknowns that you can only deal with and not plan for. Expect Mr. Putin's escapades to add a 0 or two to the bill of he really gets out of hand.
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Post by dixinormus on Mar 11, 2022 18:33:18 GMT
Erm, it’s 80 billion NZD spent, which I had already converted to 40 billion quid WdB. So double the amount!
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 12, 2022 20:11:43 GMT
If you think that someone earning £100,000 pays tax and NI approximating to £33,000pa already, the increased burden is rather large and likely to be left to our children unless there is some magic economic growth wave where we are all very happy to pay huge amounts of tax because we have made huge amounts of money.
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Post by dixinormus on Mar 12, 2022 20:22:27 GMT
NZ paid around 5 billion quid to rebuild Christchurch after the earthquakes barely 10 years ago (188 deaths). Now we’ve spent 8 times that amount on handouts, PPE and Pfizer. Not a single additional ICU bed has been procured...
It’s a scandal. Or a con. Or both?!
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Post by Humph on Mar 25, 2022 9:43:30 GMT
Son and wife both grim today and have both tested positive. ☹️
I’m absolutely fine so far and testing neg.
Bugger.
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