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Post by sooty on Nov 10, 2016 12:47:32 GMT
There I have to disagree. From personal experience I took off some awful Dunlops on a Honda Accord 4WS in about 1997 and replaced them (on the advice of the sainted LJK Setright no less - who actually replied to me when I wrote to him about the problem) with Avon CR338s. The difference was like putting on ear defenders. Amazing. Never noticed anything like since though. Fair enough, I've never noticed even the slightest difference in noise when changing tyres. All the test for tyres I've read seem to show no more than 3db between tyres. That's the bare minimum (I think) you need to notice the difference and that's in amongst all the other noise whilst driving.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 13:21:58 GMT
I've never quite got this 'saloon refined, estate noisy' dichotomy. I've had both - have one of each now - and simply don't notice anything attributable to the cargo end. I have mild tinnitus I don't know if this contributes. I do know some estate and hatchbacks broadcast exhaust notes making me feel like I have a private drum and bass session going on in my head. I experienced something similar a couple of years ago when a colleague swapped a Kuga with a metal roof for one with a panoramic roof. The panoramic roof noise was similar to removing a popout glass sunroof from an 80s hatchback and driving at 50mph with the roof flexing.
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Post by WDB on Nov 10, 2016 14:16:33 GMT
There's one section of the Surrey M25 whose surface seems to set my chariot off in some sort of resonance mode. At any cruising speed it creates a howling sound inside the cabin, which is frankly horrible. I don't know if it's the Bridgestone run-flat tyres, the shape of the underbody, a combination of the two or just something everyone gets - although I didn't notice anything unusual in the bus (on Michelins) in the summer.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 10, 2016 17:17:16 GMT
There's one section of the Surrey M25 whose surface seems to set my chariot off in some sort of resonance mode. At any cruising speed it creates a howling sound inside the cabin, which is frankly horrible. I don't know if it's the Bridgestone run-flat tyres, the shape of the underbody, a combination of the two or just something everyone gets - although I didn't notice anything unusual in the bus (on Michelins) in the summer. Yeah, that section howled in a Octavia had on test once
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Post by Alanović on Nov 11, 2016 9:24:11 GMT
Never mind V60s and V70s, I saw a new V90 this morning. Oh boy. On the list. What a splendid looking wardrobe. Saw an S90 too, I think I'm a bit smitten.
*awaits depreciation*
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Post by Humph on Nov 11, 2016 10:18:53 GMT
If I was in the market for a private purchase of a cheap but good large estate, I'd certainly consider a used, even quite an old, V70. They seem to wear their years well. Some downsides from my point of view though, which include cam belts, ( don't like cam belts ) some concerns about the reliability of their auto boxes and rumours of supertanker sized turning circles. But, if you could find one that had had a recent cam belt, preferably a manual, and you didn't need to regularly park it anywhere too tight, they look like a very nice car for surprisingly little money.
Not seen a V90 yet but that may well be a good option next time I need a "work" car. It'd have to be really convincing to persuade me away from an E Class though. I hope they are, that type of car is my ideal transport and especially since the demise of the big Saabs there isn't a great deal of choice now that fashion has moved to taller SUV type vehicles.
Did 380 odd miles in my car yesterday and got out of it feeling perfectly fresh. That is the measure of a well sorted car to me.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 11, 2016 10:43:03 GMT
The current E Class and all the Merc range look like a wag's handbag to me. I'd not want a post-W211 E. This new V90 looks like the answer. I think my next main car might be a late-as-possible E350 CDI S211 (do not want the V6 E320 CDI) in about 4 years, then a V90 5 years after that.
When the Mazda 6 tires/fails, I think one of the last S80s will do very nicely as a replacement.
Always been a bit of a Volvo fancier, but not had a big one yet, only a couple of 360s and a 480.
But cambelts. Gah.
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Post by Humph on Nov 11, 2016 10:59:17 GMT
Wag's handbag? How very dare you !
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Post by WDB on Nov 11, 2016 12:04:29 GMT
I'd not want a post-W211 E ... I think my next main car might be a late-as-possible E350 CDI S211 (do not want the V6 E320 CDI) Can't follow your logic. There was no S211 E350 CDI. That designation came along with the S212, and uses the same V6 engine as the S211 E320 (and E280) CDI. I've been in a few late W212 saloons recently and I'm warming to the styling and the interiors, both subtler than the brash early 212. But you'll have to wait till 2023 or so to find one old enough for you.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 11, 2016 12:15:19 GMT
Oh crap. Got that wrong then. Could've sworn I've seen S211 E350CDIs. Must be mistaken. Isn't there a bigger diesel engined S211 than the 320 then?
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Post by WDB on Nov 11, 2016 12:25:21 GMT
No. There was a petrol E350 but you won't have seen many of those.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 11, 2016 12:31:33 GMT
Wow. I have ze biggest vun possible. A quick google has revealed a 400 and 420 CDI on the continent, though.
Must have been a few E350 petrols I've seen here then and imagined a CDI badge on the other side.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 11, 2016 12:56:42 GMT
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Post by Humph on Nov 11, 2016 13:52:22 GMT
That's pretty much like mine apart from the colour, and mine has the modern, frugal, Eco- friendly, more than adequately powered, 4 cylinder engine ( oh and a panoramic sunroof ) 😉
The gear shifter is on a column stalk, I don't like it there, but I suppose I'm getting used to it. I've decided that it's unmanly to have to look at it to check which way to move it, so I've had to learn a mantra of "back up, drive down"
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Post by WDB on Nov 11, 2016 14:39:26 GMT
The same stalk - with its functions pared down to the barest minimum - also appears in the Tesla Model S, next to which a six-cylinder Mercedes sounds like a combine harvester. The early S212 came in the rather fetching Indigolite Blue, which is what I'd have specified if the dealer's promotional terms for a new one had made just a tad more sense. Not sure if there's anything left in the catalogue but monochromes. Pity. I've had to learn a mantra of "back up, drive down" ...and one for the steering wheel: "Right in the clear, left on the kerb" ought to do it.
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