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Post by Alanović on Jan 10, 2018 13:18:43 GMT
It's mainly a wind up of course but I can't help thinking there's a degree of truth in it. There's the odd bit of classical I like but on the whole it's totally unlistenable to me. See also: Jazz. I'm even more convinced with that one that people only listen to it because they think it's some kind of intellectual exercise which reflects well on them.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jan 10, 2018 15:34:22 GMT
...there's an awful lot of truly crap music around in just about every genre, but one would have to be a real Phillistine to dismiss the best in most (all?) of them. I admit to Jazz generally not being my first choice to listen to (though tbf it probably infuses quite a lot of music that I do like), but I can certainly tolerate quite a bit of it, and I think I could listen to the likes of this just about any time...... ....though the album it comes from is described as the Jazz record people are most likely to own - sadly, I do........
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Post by WDB on Jan 10, 2018 17:12:12 GMT
...and so do I. Twice, in fact: an LP copy with Side 1 at the wrong speed, and a CD remaster at the right speed.
A rare example of popularity coinciding with quality.
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Post by WDB on Jan 10, 2018 18:30:24 GMT
... Jazz. I'm even more convinced with that one that people only listen to it because they think it's some kind of intellectual exercise which reflects well on them. When you're six, you think Haribos are all you could ever want to eat, and oysters, smelly cheese, liver pâté and (gasp!) salad are punishment foods imposed by adults. But not all people carry their childish tastes and prejudices into adulthood. Some of us eat oysters and enjoy jazz when no-one else can see us. 👅😜
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 19:42:08 GMT
Reminds me of a conversation with an Art Historian cousin who said something like "Beethoven's Fifth is rubbish because too many people enjoy it". I did my best to disabuse him of the ludicrous idea....
Yes there is some popular rubbish out there and unpopular perfection, but equally, popular perfection and unpopular rubbish.
I do genuinely like and in cases love classical music, but I also like lots of the 'pop' and 'rock' from the 60s through to the early 90s as well some High Life from West Africa and swing jazz but have lost interest in recent years of contemporary music. The obvious place to listen is in the car, but I prefer speech programming as in Radio 4 especially if there is a good play on. Music for me now is live or on the MP3 player for airplane journeys.
My next concert is Graham Gouldman (formerly of 10cc) 'unplugged'. Now there was a band that had great music and very clever lyrics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 1:28:29 GMT
I don't think there is any style of music that I don't like in it's entirety. Every style contains greatness and garbage. To like any style because of what others think is daft.
I am not six, but I still can't help think that Haribos are all you could ever want to eat. If I'm honest, haribos, kebabs, fried egg sandwiches and caviar. I could live forever happily.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jan 11, 2018 7:46:15 GMT
If I'm honest, haribos, kebabs, fried egg sandwiches and caviar. I could live forever happily. ...TBH, I'm not convinced that's a workable combination........
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Post by WDB on Jan 11, 2018 8:27:50 GMT
My next concert is Graham Gouldman (formerly of 10cc) 'unplugged'. Hmm. I know these things became fashionable in the 1990s but I've never got them. However strong the material, it will lose something from being played without the instrumentation it was written for. I suspect the main reason for unplugging is that it's cheap. Just as Beethoven specified the instrumentation for his symphonies, and they sound lame played on a fairground organ, so the visceral effect of an amplified rock band is a significant part of the pleasure of listening. Stripping that out can focus attention uncomfortably on the simple, repetitive structure of most rock songs. That's not to say electric artists can't produce material suited to acoustic performance. Steve Earle, in the liner notes to his superb 1995 post-prison album Train a-Comin', wrote: From the jump, this ain't my unplugged record!! I made most of these songs up before I was plugged in the first place. ... Some of those old songs have been dusted off for acoustic tours over the years whenever I was feeling out of touch or I needed the money ... but make no mistake, this ain't no part of no unplugged nothin' - God I hate MTV.
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Post by Alanović on Jan 11, 2018 9:58:38 GMT
I do genuinely like and in cases love classical music, but I also like lots of the 'pop' and 'rock' from the 60s through to the early 90s ......... The obvious place to listen is in the car, but I prefer speech programming as in Radio 4 especially if there is a good play on. Music for me now is live or on the MP3 player for airplane journeys. I'm with you there EIII, I'd extend it to the late 90s and very, very early 00s, but after that, with the notable exception of a handful of new material form existing artists, pop and rock has died an absolute death. Those genres appear to have been mostly replaced in the consciousness of the young with the appalling racket of so-called "R'n'B" (not really R'n'B), Rap and whatever even more execrable derivatives it has spawned like "Grime" or whatever. All absolute crimes against music and more to do with lifestyle and image than anything else - tasteless and violent and misogynistic lifestyle and image at that. And then there's Ed Sheeran. Even St Jules of Holland is being dragged in to it with his relentless promotion of talentless drivel like "Rag'n'Bone Man".
I also pretty much only listen to R4 and 5Live in the car (R4 goes off if The Archers, some waffle about art, or something religious crops up), I occasionally play some music from my phone now that I have a Bluetooth streaming system in the car, but not very often.
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Post by WDB on Jan 11, 2018 12:43:12 GMT
... talentless drivel like "Rag'n'Bone Man". Quite like what I've heard of his - admittedly mostly through the kitchen door while the spawn are clearing up after dinner. You might like Royal Blood too. With you on the rest, though - especially Ed Sheeran.
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Post by Alanović on Jan 11, 2018 12:58:01 GMT
You're right. I do like Royal Blood. I'd forgotten about them. Exception which proves the rule.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 16:23:31 GMT
If I'm honest, haribos, kebabs, fried egg sandwiches and caviar. I could live forever happily. ...TBH, I'm not convinced that's a workable combination........ Breakfast - fried egg sandwiches Lunch - caviar. Tea - haribos Dinner - kebabs And alcohol of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 17:14:56 GMT
Not quite the ideal diet of: -
Breakfast like a king Lunch like a prince Dine like a pauper
Mind you quail eggs improve the quality of breakfast....
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Post by tyrednexited on Jan 11, 2018 17:21:12 GMT
...TBH, I'm not convinced that's a workable combination........ Breakfast - fried egg sandwiches Lunch - caviar. Tea - haribos Dinner - kebabs And alcohol of course. ...yeah, but it's the living for ever happily that would be off the menu (unless you had a side-salad somewhere in there - perhaps with the haribos? )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 21:29:33 GMT
Kebabs have salad with them. As any fule kno.
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