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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 19, 2017 8:05:57 GMT
..... Make me feel sick ...... ...You should make sure you're not too far from the toilet, then..... ;-)
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Post by commerdriver on Dec 19, 2017 9:17:57 GMT
We have Pendolinos on the west coast line. Bit like Volvos, big, heavy and lean a lot on the bends. Actually very good to travel on in fact, if they can be afforded at any useful sort of time of day. Unless you have a case with you, the overhead racks are pretty useless from what I remember. Otherwise I agree, nice trains, although I still have a soft spot for 125s as they have formed much of my inter city transport throughout my career, starting from 1977 Newcastle-Kings X until the last inter city lot so far in 2016 when I did a few weeks of Kings X to York on them.
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Post by Hofmeister on Dec 19, 2017 9:18:06 GMT
Derived of course from the British Rail designed Advanced Passenger Train (successor of the 125)... except the new owners worked out how to make it work. It was V1R1, Everyone knows you avoid the first version first release. The theory and dynamics had been worked out*, but its application was beyond the technology available at the time. *It is actually a bit flawed, but so arrived at to make fast trains along a track thats not designed for it. As everyone else proved, the way to fast trains is the totaly holistic approach, start with the a new route and track. Note, As Amtrack found out yesterday, and they think that 80mph is fast.
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 19, 2017 9:25:51 GMT
I've done an awful lot of miles on the 125s, both on the ECML and GW.
Probably the most "interesting" journey was a trip down to London in the same coach as the Rylstone and District WI just as they hit the headlines.
("Calendar Girls" for those who haven't made the connection).
Needless to say, it wasn't the "Quiet Coach".
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Post by hobbit on Dec 19, 2017 11:52:44 GMT
I`ve never been on a "real" Train! all I,ve been in is one of them DMU "Cattle boxes",- the "posh" train on our line is an old 60's Double-ended Deltic look-alike, still puling West Coast liveried coaches! - am I missing anything? ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 13:07:49 GMT
Depends where you are going. 200 miles from Manchester to Euston in 2 hours 10 minutes in reasonable comfort is far better than in a train that looks like it was once a bus....
My only other experience of trains worldwide has been relatively local trips (around Manchester, Naples, the Paris region, Switzerland and in Israel), where surprisingly, the Israeli ones were the most comfortable and suitable for longer distances. All the others were effectively buses on tracks.
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Post by WDB on Dec 19, 2017 13:24:55 GMT
2-4 hours is the optimum length for a train journey, when the lack of fuss at either end more makes up for the higher in-transit speed of flying. Continental Europe is the right size for fast trains. Cologne to Berlin on a snowy January morning was just fabulous; did some work, drank some coffee (that tasted like coffee) listened to some Beethoven, admired the changing scenery. Can't do many of those on a plane. One stop was Wolfsburg. Any ideas what happens there? (Sorry, it didn't look that big before I inserted it.)
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 19, 2017 15:33:37 GMT
drank some coffee (that tasted like coffee) ...you were lucky then. I love Germany, but (IMO) German coffee is invariably rather insipid..... One stop was Wolfsburg. Any ideas what happens there? ....leading-edge software development.......? (Sorry, it didn't look that big before I inserted it.) ....as the Bishop said to the actress....
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Post by bromptonaut on Dec 19, 2017 17:12:01 GMT
The 125's came in on Kings Cross to Leeds about same time as I took up my first post in London so I clocked up a lot of miles on them. Could get up just after 6, cadge a lift to local station for first train to Leeds and be on the 07:30 Leeds Executive stopping only at Wakefield Westgate and be at my desk in 'legal London' before 10:00am.
A few years previously you'd have struggled to get into Kings Cross much before 11.
Tomorrow there are 4 trains before 07:30 with fastest at sub two hours.
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Post by bromptonaut on Dec 19, 2017 17:14:21 GMT
Oh and I could probably do a drink in London but unlikely elsewhere (unless it was Birmingham).
Actually I'm intending to be in London on 20 Feb for a lecture by Joshua Rozenberg on digitising the courts - we former Court Officers know how to party!!
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Post by WDB on Dec 19, 2017 18:03:03 GMT
(Sorry, it didn't look that big before I inserted it.) ....as the Bishop said to the actress.... I often forget how big it is until I have to show it to someone else.
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Post by Rob on Dec 19, 2017 18:37:31 GMT
Some of the local trains run by Northern Rail still use Pacer trains - bodies are converted from bus bodies and other components.... even bus style seats. They were never meant to still be in use of course.
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 19, 2017 18:52:47 GMT
I often forget how big it is until I have to show it to someone else. .....I'll pass.......
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 19, 2017 23:16:03 GMT
Suffolk? Where's that then? BTW, I believe the conventional response is "Suffolk, wear the fox hat"
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Post by Alanović on Jan 2, 2018 12:00:09 GMT
2-4 hours is the optimum length for a train journey, when the lack of fuss at either end more makes up for the higher in-transit speed of flying. Continental Europe is the right size for fast trains. Cologne to Berlin on a snowy January morning was just fabulous; did some work, drank some coffee (that tasted like coffee) listened to some Beethoven, admired the changing scenery. Can't do many of those on a plane. One stop was Wolfsburg. Any ideas what happens there? (Sorry, it didn't look that big before I inserted it.) A city notable for 2 things.
Volkswagen, and losing to Fulham in the UEFA Cup.
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