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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 17:51:23 GMT
In reality Lamborghini was effectively unknown until the Miura but the invention of the supercar soon put them on the map.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 17:59:08 GMT
I think Enzo Ferrari pee'd a lot of people off in the 60's which resulted in the competition. Ford mid-60s resulting in Le Mans 1966, Ferrucio not being happy with Enzo resulting in 1963 a tractor builder deciding to build his own sports car.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 19:10:52 GMT
I like the look of the Jerama, it makes me think of a stretched 308GTB.
What a noise ! It might run like a bag of spanners and give Fiesta ST performance today with supertanker fuel consumption but I dunno, I think it is better than the Espada. Make of that what you will...
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Post by Rob on Dec 16, 2017 20:39:30 GMT
In reality Lamborghini was effectively unknown until the Miura but the invention of the supercar soon put them on the map. He was known for tractors though He didn't start out making cars until 1963. The Muira was only the third model they produced. Also well known for engines for power boats these days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 20:49:32 GMT
As is Volvo and the Penta which is what the D5 diesel engine in the car was built from and why it's probably so reliable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 11:59:33 GMT
The Espada was a surprisingly popular car. They made about 1,220 of them over three series. Popular because it was a genuine four seater (although not overly easy to gain access to the back seat). Based upon the Marzal show car it was totally different to the regular fast cars of the time.
Of course the story is well known that Ferrucio was pissed off with Enzo because Ferrari's car were rubbish. Ferrucio was a proper businessman, with a factory making tractors and air conditioners, so he rocked up to Maranello to have a moan, only to be given the bum's rush. So he decided to make his own super cars.
Frankly, as pure road cars I think he did a far better job and didn't lose focus; head to head, the Espada was always a far superior car to the Ferrari 400. A lot of Ferrari mystique comes from the death of Dino and the car that bore his name, together with the 308GTS/B which followed. All excellent cars, but nothing can out Countach a Countach and without the Muira, the mid engined supercar probably wouldn't exist.
However, would I buy one now? A new one, no. An old one, definitely yes. I still want an Espada and probably always will.
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Post by lygonos on Dec 17, 2017 13:39:55 GMT
...the Espada was always a far superior car to the Ferrari 400.
Mate's old man who was high up in a metal manufacturing company had a 400 or a 400i when I was at school.
Wasn't massively reliable but sounded great and looked better than the Espada.
He may still have it for all I know - haven't seen him since he retired 15 years ago
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