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Post by WDB on Dec 14, 2017 15:00:23 GMT
..,without wind and with the right clothes, it's really not that uncomfortable. Wind in the wrong clothes, however... π |
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Post by lygonos on Dec 14, 2017 18:10:10 GMT
..,without wind and with the right clothes, it's really not that uncomfortable. Wind in the wrong clothes, however... π AlanoviΔ probably doesn't own a spacesuit... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 19:16:26 GMT
I've experienced -29 Celsius in southern Germany. Cold enough to lift and break up concrete roads.
The coldest I've ever been is -2 Celsius. It doesn't sound like much but after an hour or so at 90+mph even with layers of windproof clothing the cold seeps through. Especially around the thighs and knees.
A hot bath and a few hours later the plink, plink of a full set returning reminds you never again.
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Post by Humph on Dec 16, 2017 13:47:37 GMT
Well, I've done 1200 miles this week, most of it in the nasty weather we've been having. My "undriveable" RWD auto proved remarkably drivable in it all, including on snow covered hill roads. Must have all manner of traction control wizardry I suppose because it really never gave me any trouble.
It is though, now dirtier than the dirtiest thing in dirty land when the cleaners are on holiday.
I'm not at all precious about having a shiny car but this is extreme. It's still foul weather here and set to be all weekend, so absolutely no point in paying an Eastern European to clean it or breaking out the pressure washer.
Just as well it's being serviced next week as they'll clean it too.
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 16, 2017 14:06:33 GMT
Must have all manner of traction control wizardry I suppose because it really never gave me any trouble. .....are you telling us you didn't deselect the "pretend you're a driving God" option.......... |
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Post by Humph on Dec 16, 2017 14:11:48 GMT
Must have all manner of traction control wizardry I suppose because it really never gave me any trouble. .....are you telling us you didn't deselect the "pretend you're a driving God" option.......... Can't deselect something quite so devinely given. π |
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Post by tyrednexited on Dec 16, 2017 14:25:28 GMT
Can't deselect something quite so devinely given. π I guess so, mon ami...... |
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Post by WDB on Dec 16, 2017 17:13:52 GMT
Must have all manner of traction control wizardry I suppose because it really never gave me any trouble. π Noticed my ESP working a couple of times, once in each car. The i3 had a tiny slither on the bend in our (untreated) road, which has an adverse camber as well as a poorly-filled BT trench. I was doing maybe 15 and it was over before I really knew there a was a problem. And in the CLS, before the cold snap, I took a slightly rushed right-turn into a side road, where the surface turned out to be a little loose. Again, it felt like the rear end slipped slightly, but I experienced it in the past tense - as in "What happened there?" I do remember driving an icy road in my Astra, circa 1994, and finding its slithers very uncomfortably present-tense. Given that that had 82hp - half the i3's output and more like a third of the CLS's - it's probably fair to say that many people (not Humph, obviously) would find today's cars undrivable if it weren't for the progress in driver-aid technology. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 18:02:14 GMT
Worse roads, cold weather, lots of power and wide low profile tyres = crashes, if the drivers don't have ESP, TC etc etc. Unless of course one is a driving God.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 19:19:36 GMT
Think about it.
17 years ago 200 horsepower was still quite a quick machine, I was a member of the 200 plus club with a FIAT Coupe when a cooking repmobile had 160-180 horsepower.
Think about the Golf GTi 16v from the early 90's only had 139horsepower.
Now we have Humph's estate with more than 200 horsepower with a driving test that still does not require any specialist kind of knowledge driving on a skidpan or snow/ice. You can, in theory, pass your test in June never having experienced anything other than bone dry roads (Manchester excluded where it ALWAYS rains).
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Post by WDB on Dec 16, 2017 21:36:58 GMT
I think Humph makes do with 170 these days. π
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Post by Hofmeister on Dec 16, 2017 22:47:32 GMT
I think Humph makes do with 170 these days. π As many as that? No wonder he cant spin his wheels. |
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Post by Humph on Dec 17, 2017 9:43:19 GMT
I think Humph makes do with 170 these days. π As many as that? No wonder he cant spin his wheels. Ah well, y'see, driving gods can make just as brisk progress as those with more ( unnecessarily? ) powerful engines because they know instinctively which is the best lane to be in, how late to brake, and can carry much more speed through bends than normal drivers. And they get 50mpg. π |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 12:12:11 GMT
So buy a 2CV then. You'll get 100mpg.  |
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Post by Humph on Dec 17, 2017 13:16:38 GMT
It's more like comparing a caveman with a club to a skilled swordsman. The former has a blunt instrument, effective in its own way of course, but a bit reliant on brute force. The latter has an ability, an art form almost, honed over decades, that demonstrates precision timing and skill. A joy to behold in awestruck amazement to those who understand, or even to those who can only begin to dream of ever reaching those levels of timing and accuracy.
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