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Post by Rob on Nov 16, 2017 20:58:20 GMT
I used to use Memory Map on an iPad for OS maps.... then when I got a Nokia Symbian phone (so Memory Map not an option) I tried ViewRanger... since transferred those maps several times to newer devices. Currently my Samsung. Memory Map is now an Android app too.
Note for Memory Map I am referring to 13 years ago for the HP iPAQ.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 11:17:52 GMT
...why can't I learn to leave well alone? It's human nature...newer, must be better. I'm doing the same thing with Android 8 on my phone. Google, I think, have made a half-hearted effort for the Nexus 5X phone. It's at the end of its shelf life, the focus is on the Pixel phones but for whatever reason they've released the version they have for the 5X. It's more like an Alpha release than Beta, crashes in the browser battery performance is all over the place depending on whether you have the October or November release installed. I should just bin 8 and go back to the last version of 7 which is stable but for some illogical reason I have not...yet. But I probably...will...maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 16:39:17 GMT
The phone has made the decision for me. Charge socket is not locking the cable in place now, it can charge but I think it's on its last legs. The charge socket connects directly to the motherboard. New phone time It will be Android, it will be a Google phone as I like the frequent updates and I like the fact the phone can have multiple upgrades to newer Android releases which can be rolled back during the first two years of its life. Google even encourage you to stick with their stock ROMs and make them available for rooted phones.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 18:42:27 GMT
>>The charge socket connects directly to the motherboard
Its £3.00, readily available and soldered.
If you're going to replace the phone anyway, worth a go, shirley?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 19:01:20 GMT
I have thumbs for fingers. I can do big soldering but not circuit board work. I've already ordered...an LG Nexus 5X because it is the easiest porting of the lot. Unlock the boot loader, backup the old phone, copy the files over re-image the new phone, done.
However, once I've done the above I will take to someone who can do this and if successful, I have a backup phone or my wife who has a Sony Experia may want to try Android Oreo.
If anyone is building electronics or planning to, I can recommend her as your product tester. If she doesn't break it I can pass it on to my Mother-in-Law a.k.a. passion fingers. If it still works then you will have a bomb proof market ready product.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 20:41:20 GMT
>> my Mother-in-Law a.k.a. passion fingers
I am struggling with a mental image that I really didn't need!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 20:42:43 GMT
Do you get new releases of Android as soon as they come out with a Google phone? Also, do the various manufacturers custom UIs really add much to Android? I hear much talk of improved camera applications for example.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 21:02:31 GMT
Passion Fingers - Urban Dictionary definition: a double meaning label given to people who make something break/not work just by being near it or touching it ... the explanation is ... "passion fingers" - everything (s)he touches (s)he f--ks!
They (Google phones) are the first on general release as they are "Google" read "Alphabet Inc" read "Android" devices.
I am very happy with the quality of pictures I can take with my mobile Unix box which goes under the guise of a smartphone. Would I pay 500€+ for a smartphone ? No way. As ever, it's finding a level that works for you, budget, what you're going to do with it etc...etc...etc... as with any other consumer goods.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 21:07:48 GMT
Passion Fingers - Urban Dictionary definition: a double meaning label given to people who make something break/not work just by being near it or touching it ... the explanation is ... "passion fingers" - everything (s)he touches (s)he f--ks! They are the first on general release as they are "Google" read "Alphabet Inc" read "Android" devices. I'd never heard "passion fingers" before. I get the Google / Alphabet / phone connection, I just didn't know how quickly Google flowed it down through their devices.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 21:14:52 GMT
Pixel and Pixel2 are the flagship google devices now and have, I believe, Android 8.1. For some reason only known to Google/Alphabet they released a version of Android 8.0 for the Nexus 5X which has just reached the end of the two year product plan Google have come up with. Kind of a halfway house look what you can have and more if you go to Pixel devices.
If you think about anyone who bought a new Android phone from the main players about two years ago do they have the same level of service ? My wife's Sony is only a few months older than my phone and she's running Android 5, I can update it to 6 but that's as far as it will go.
The problem I find with all mobile devices these days is they are not built for longevity. I am by no means a heavy handed user, never put my phone in my back pocket, always in my shirt breast pocket or in a custom holder i.e. not one of the grip type holders, in the car. My devices generally last 2 to 2,5 years before some component fails (normally screen) inside the case and my experience with mobile phone repairs is not great.
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Post by Hofmeister on Nov 25, 2017 21:29:13 GMT
Pixel and Pixel2 are the flagship google devices now and have, I believe, Android 8.1. For some reason only known to Google/Alphabet they released a version of Android 8.0 for the Nexus 5X which has just reached the end of the two year product plan Google have come up with. Kind of a halfway house look what you can have and more if you go to Pixel devices. If you think about anyone who bought a new Android phone from the main players about two years ago do they have the same level of service ? My wife's Sony is only a few months older than my phone and she's running Android 5, I can update it to 6 but that's as far as it will go. The problem I find with all mobile devices these days is they are not built for longevity. I am by no means a heavy handed user, never put my phone in my back pocket, always in my shirt breast pocket or in a custom holder i.e. not one of the grip type holders, in the car. My devices generally last 2 to 2,5 years before some component fails (normally screen) inside the case and my experience with mobile phone repairs is not great. I'm quite happy sticking with Motos. They come with minimal bloat, rugged, good battery life, cheap, and upgrade support, while not quite as bleeding edge as Google devices, certainly dont lag behind much on the update front.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 21:36:14 GMT
...and Moto is another phone in that, not cheap but not laptop/PC expensive (if you want something above Billy basic) bracket. There are a handful which are usable. My wife's Sony cost about £200 a couple of years ago and has been pretty reliable considering she is the daughter of Passion Fingers and what that means to electronics. She goes through laptops quicker than I go through phones.
Another phone I can recommend is ZTE*. I bought my daughter (grand-daughter of PF) one last January. It has fantastic battery life (3 days on a single charge) 4000mAh battery. Only cost about 100€ a year ago.
*ZTE is a Chinese brand, not sure what the stock ROM runs or what it does (talking to home), I always root and use a modified ROM. This was an experiment phone. Cheap enough to throw away and replace with something better if necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 21:54:29 GMT
I have quite a lot of experience now of Huawei, Samsung and Motorola.
Samsung are the worst; the updates are slow to appear and it seems that any phone gets just one major Android upgrade. Loads of annoying additional apps that you can;t get rid of, many of which suck the battery up. Battery life is crap. Not enough for a day. The last we had was an S6. Maybe the newer ones are better.
Huawei is what I now use. Was a P9, now a P10. Cheaper than Samsung though by no means cheap. A million times better, even with a liberal attitude to unlocking and rooting. Battery life is superb and there's really very little in the way of Apps you can;t get rid of.
Daughter's Motorola is outstandingly good. The camera isn't quite as good as mine, though not much worse in the real world, but in every other way that matters the phone is as good. And for about 1/3 of the price.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 22:06:39 GMT
Huawei is another phone I looked at, a P9 I think it was, when I bought my Nexus 5X. Prior to that I'd been an HTC fan BUT, as you found with Samsung, only got one (if you were lucky) major update during 2 years after which it was no longer a supported product.
HTC won the rights to build the newest Google phone however that has since been put under renewed scrutiny/review as HTC want to go off and target the Chinese market.
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Post by Alanović on Nov 27, 2017 10:36:23 GMT
Having just 'upgraded' a Huawei P8 to a Nokia 5, I'm starting to wish I hadn't bothered, or gone for another Huawei. The Nokia isn't bad, it just isn't as crisp and snappy and flawless as the Huawei was.
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