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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 21:20:21 GMT
We are in Cumbria in an Airbnb. Espadrille drove up with all the gear, a child and dog in the Merc. Later on I drove up with two children in the Punto.
The Fiat has been abused by son #1 for two years at university with all panels bashed and driven in the city, up the M6 and around the suburbs. It's now done 27,000 miles. Yesterday it went into the garage to have a small oil leak fixed, turns out it was a gearbox driveshaft seal. £9 plus labour.
Garage commented how well the car was coping with its age and abuse. Today's drive was 120 miles up the M6. It's so good. Decent ride, plenty of motorway ooomph, 45mpg at 70mph + speeds.
No rust, even on bare metal where son has scraped it. Just amazing really.
Given the poor reputation of Fiat, I didn't expect this level of service.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 10:34:43 GMT
27k is an amazingly low mileage for what I assume is a car about 15 years old.
I've always argued that post-80s FIATs are criminally under rated. My Marea was terrific, and my Stilo was good too. Particularly when you consider how much they were, i.e very little, second hand. My Mum's Multiplas and now the 500L have proven pretty robust. I'd buy a current Tipo (with the 1.4 T-Jet petrol or 1.6 Multijet diesel) in a heartbeat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 14:11:27 GMT
Yes 2004 model bought in 2015 at 11,000 miles I think from a deceased estate for £500. It was not unmarked when purchased but we have managed to bash every panel apart from the roof and underside, sometimes twice. Think it's on its third passenger door!
But it keeps on going....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 14:26:58 GMT
Well it bloody well should at that mileage is my point. Why are you surprised?
I'd love to find a car like that for my lad in a couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 17:57:49 GMT
You're right. No reason why the mechanicals should fail just because the body has been abused.
It is far better on the country roads in Cumbria than the Merc. The only thing I miss is the sheer power of being able to overtake without thinking in my car.
But anticipation is the fun of driving!
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Post by Avant on Jul 12, 2019 23:09:29 GMT
Fiat seem to be getting over their reputation for unreliability and rust, although anything bigger than a Punto doesn't seem to sell. Small Fiats have always been good to drive: I've a feeling that you prefer driving it to Espadrille's Mini.
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Post by tyrednexited on Jul 13, 2019 4:12:07 GMT
I've had 3 Fiat cars over the years; the first was a Uno 70s back in the day.. In many ways an excellent little car, with extremely good packaging, but let down by tin worm and minor build quality issues (though the band's holding the petrol tank also rusted through, which was hardly minor!)
The second was bought when the motor home size, growing with the kids, dictated that it wasn't ideal as SWMBO's everyday vehicle, albeit she wasn't working then. A Mk1 Punto 55s 3 door, bought at rock bottom price new but pre-reg. All in all, the best of the three. Styling worked; I think by then they were galvanised, and all in all an excellent and cheap little car.
It was replaced about 5 years later by a Mk2 Punto 60s, again new but pre-registered (I found out it was actually registered on the morning I picked it up) and again rock-bottom price. It was probably a better car than the Mk1, but lacked some of the character.
I have, of course, had a good few Fiat Ducato based vehicles ;-) (seven in fact)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 22:40:56 GMT
Fiat seem to be getting over their reputation for unreliability and rust, although anything bigger than a Punto doesn't seem to sell. Small Fiats have always been good to drive: I've a feeling that you prefer driving it to Espadrille's Mini. In many ways yes. Lighter, more nimble, better seating position, lighter steering but still positive, much lighter gearbox with reverse in the proper position, not up to the left but right and down. And probably no less economical than her diesel. I have never understood the desirability of cars with heavy controls.
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Post by Rob on Jul 20, 2019 16:29:16 GMT
Our second car is a FIAT Seicento. My wife wanted a small car and decided she'd have one like her boss at the time. We got it in 2002 (pre-reg) on a 51 plate. Apart from some minor things like earthing problem stopping it starting, needing some new batteries, etc. It's been reliable in all this time.
Couldn't say exact mileage but it's over 30k miles now. For a fair few years the odometer was not working so it passed 3 or 4 MOTs with the same mileage :-)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:14:21 GMT
Was having a chat with my lad, who is nearly 15, in the car just now. About what he would find an acceptable ride when gets to 17. Apparently he wants "a classic". There's me thinking, oh Christ, I don't really want him in an Morris Minor or something, it'll be murder. But my concern was misplaced. His idea of "a classic"? Mk1 Ford Focus. If I can find a 1.4 3 door in the next 2 years, in my immediate geographical vicinity, for under a grand or so, I might just bloody well buy it in advance and get him to help me fettle it in advance of using it. VW Polo also apparently acceptable. I'll float the idea of a Punto also. Now that just makes me feel old, a Mk1 Focus being considered a classic by a yoot.
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Post by Humph on Sept 9, 2019 8:51:50 GMT
I remember getting a Focus as a renter when they first replaced the Escort and thinking how advanced it was when compared to its predessor. Good wee cars, although I suppose you'd have to be sure it hadn't got any major rust problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:56:24 GMT
Mk1 Foci were excellent. We rented two estates in Italy - the TDdi and TDci engines. Even the TDdi was great at motorway travel, the TDci simply better and a lot smoother.
Great idea Al for your lad's first car. The Puntos are pretty much rust free unless they are heavily damaged. Our 15 year old model with scrapes everywhere is solid. What a pity they didn't use this technology in the 70a and 80s.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 13:27:44 GMT
Punto was attacked last weekend by a pretty young girl in her Clio. Just passed her test and she stoved in the passenger door.
Luckily, her family knows ours so it's being sorted without recourse to the insurance as I don't want the Punto writing off.
Found a door in the right colour for £30 and the place will fit it. Worked out this is the fifth passenger door for this car ...
Still drives well and has not yet reached 30,000 miles at 15 years old.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 14:03:34 GMT
Wow, 5 doors, that's some run of luck. Near door-mirror levels of misfortune.
You really ought to find the most objectionably clashing colour next time though. Start off a Punto Harlequin special edition.
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Post by WDB on Nov 8, 2019 15:59:34 GMT
My mum’s last car was a five-door Punto. Probably a five-bumper Punto too, by the time we persuaded her that her driving days were over.
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