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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 20:47:07 GMT
...is doing something that Farage also promised to do. But now the Daily mail is outraged?
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Post by Rob on Jan 31, 2017 21:06:17 GMT
American's liked what he was saying and now he's delivering. What's the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 21:12:45 GMT
50% of the US didn't vote at all, so presumably they don't care who is President. 25% of the US voted for Trump, so presumably they are happy. A proportion of the remaining 25% of the US is probably not happy about Trump being President.
So, a maximum of 25% of the electorate don't like their leader? Doesn't seem like very much or very unusual. I think Cameron cranked up more than that.
Trump and Farage don't particularly bother me. The twats who vote(d) for them scare me far more.
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Post by Rob on Jan 31, 2017 21:19:56 GMT
It's like Brexit. Enough of those who voted got what they wanted. About 50% couldn't be bothered voting. So you get what the others wanted.
I agree about the ones who voted for Trump (or Brexit here) that bothers us more! And more scarey than Trump: (1) the vice president and (2) Steve Bannon
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Post by Avant on Jan 31, 2017 23:46:10 GMT
I don't know much about the VP, Mike Pence: I'd rather hoped he might be a voice of comparative sanity beside the mercurial Trump. It sounds as if you don't think he would be, Rob.
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Post by Rob on Feb 1, 2017 0:27:51 GMT
I am only going on what my brother says - he is now a US citizen and has lived in the USA for over 20 years. If you think Trump has some crazy ideas and beliefs then you apparently don't want Mike Pence in his place.
My brother also said that there was much hatred of Hillary Clinton and that some would vote for Trump even though they disliked him. Hate seems a strong word but that's how some American's felt.
So I'm in no rush to go to America. I don't like the place or some of the citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 11:07:42 GMT
When I was in the Jazz club in Barcelona on Monday night, I got chatting to an American lady from New York State. I asked her about the anti-Trump 'women's demonstrations' last week. She was quite firm in her view that everyone there would have voted. However, she also admitted that the question of Trump/Clinton was very hard as no-one trusted Clinton to be honest and no-one trusted Trump to be sensible. I guess honesty won over sensibility.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 12:32:40 GMT
The current social acceptability of the view/opinions/statements that foreign / immigrant / refugee is "bad" is a worrying one.
One of the few things that keeps bigotry in check is its social unacceptability - essential the reason why bigots cluster around each other for reassurance/safety. Tear down that house and who knows what comes next.
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Post by Hofmeister on Feb 1, 2017 13:11:04 GMT
When I was in the Jazz club in Barcelona on Monday night, I got chatting to an American lady from New York State. I asked her about the anti-Trump 'women's demonstrations' last week. She was quite firm in her view that everyone there would have voted. However, she also admitted that the question of Trump/Clinton was very hard as no-one trusted Clinton to be honest and no-one trusted Trump to be sensible. I guess honesty won over sensibility. None of the yanks wanted Trump as the Republican candidate, and none of them trusted Hilary or wanted her as president. Mist them truly believe they were between a rock and a hard place and in truth they were. In their place I would have voted for Clinton, but only to keep Trump out of office
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Post by Rob on Feb 1, 2017 23:11:59 GMT
I'd have done the same Nogbad. If only at the last minute the Democrats had put forward a boring risk free candidate.
The fact is there were many that really really didn't want Clinton as president and were willing to vote for Trump. They didn't want Trump but them were the real choices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 0:13:23 GMT
Nope, I don't think so. By far the majority of people who voted for Trump not only wanted him then, they are happy that they've got him now.
That's why the voters worry me.
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Post by Rob on Feb 2, 2017 1:24:10 GMT
Maybe it's why I don't like the USA. I last visited there in 1999.
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Post by Alanović on Feb 2, 2017 10:21:23 GMT
Watch out for impending #Calexit. Can't say I'd blame them.
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Post by tomoco on Feb 2, 2017 10:49:43 GMT
www.yescalifornia.org/huh... they have the same round Blue 'Yes' logo that was used in the Scottish independence campaign.
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Post by tomoco on Feb 2, 2017 16:47:19 GMT
Just got home from work and put the BBC news on. Trump vs Schwarzenegger.....
You really couldn't make this stuff up. The President of the the USA having a spat about reality TV
It's probably quite funny in some parallel universe
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