Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:30:34 GMT
Nobody is likely to need to know this now, but if you ever do need to know then you'll be glad that I've said it so that it doesn't take you the gazillion hours to work it out that it took me....
These days when one changes Android phones, then if you stay with the same brand its pretty simple, just a variation on backup/restore of one type or another. However, if one is trying to change between two different manufacturers then it all gets a bit more problematic, especially if one wishes to transfer things such as wifi data/passwords.
Well, should you ever be in such a position then no doubt you will do what I do and Google. It turns out that there are various ways to do this, the most flexible of which is to use NFC. All one has to do is get the two phones to communicate.
And this is where the tiny yet significant detail that you need to know comes in. I could not get the damn things to talk. Samsung to Samsung, seamless. Huawei to Huawei, no problem. But Samsung to Huawei or vice versa, no chance.
I tried everything and was close to flinging the damn things out the window.
There was nothing wrong, everything seemed to be functioning correctly were it not for the slight fault that it actually wasn't working. Or doing much of anything.
But eventually I twigged; NFC has a range of 1cm to 2cm. On virtually all phones of the same brand the NFC antenna is in more or less the same place and so they are within 2cm and thus communicate quite well. However, on phones from different manufacturers the antenna can be in quite a different place and therefore upto 7 or 8cm apart. In the Samsung, for example, its in the damned battery.
So what you need to do is put them back to back as you might expect, and then slide them around until they bleep. Which in the case of the Samsung and the Huawei is when the two of them overlap by no more than 3cm. (top of Huawei, bottom of Samsung).
And then everything works beautifully.
Now you know.
Now I'm drinking gin.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 6:34:04 GMT
Sounds like you have got them mating....
When I switched from. Samsung to Sony I moved most things over by NYC. It was a fiddle but it worked eventually. What is the Huawei like? Which model?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:00:15 GMT
Huawei P9
I quite like it so far, bit early to say for sure. Quite different to the Samsung Galaxy S5.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hofmeister on Nov 23, 2016 10:04:29 GMT
Funny init, Otto can't get NFC to work unless they are within 5mm of each other, yet others claim that their funds were siphoned off by a bloke in the q at the next Starbucks till 15 metres away, hence the sale of shielded wallets.
Mind you it is variable, which is why the term "Card Clash" has entered the vocabular. Any one who has used London Transport will realise that the NFC pad is quite large and has a biggish working field ( by design)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 11:45:57 GMT
With all technology there will always be the tin foil hat brigade.
About a billion years ago I was a painter/decorator for a Borough Council responsible for looking after council houses. Many council houses at that time were inhabited by raging nutters, at least in my experience. Mind you, since I was at another point a debt collector for Provident, they were also inhabited by homicidal lunatics with no money sense.
Anyway, went around to one house and found a tin foil nutter. As I cleared the furniture to the middle of the room he was explaining to me about the messages beamed into his head by the Government and aliens. They were in cahoots, apparently. He had discovered that they were using the television signal to do this. As I went to pick up the 1970s big-arse TV, I almost threw the damn thing over my shoulder. It was empty, just a casket.
This, the TFN explained to me, was so that the Government couldn't broadcast messages into his brain. But to stop the Government finding out, not only had he taken all the insides out of the TV, he kept the box on the sideboard so it looked like he had a TV AND he paid his TV license every year to stop them becoming suspicious.
He's probably dead now, but if he is alive I guarantee he owns a shielded wallet. Without an NFC card in it.
|
|
Rob
Full Member
Posts: 2,778 
|
Post by Rob on Nov 23, 2016 14:31:36 GMT
I was curious what would happen if I placed my wallet on the wireless terminal to pay, knowing there were two NFC cards in there. The payment terminal came up with a message along the lines 'multiple cards detected'. But then the terminal crashed and I couldn't pay ;-) I didn't say what I'd tried doing.
I've not tried it again yet - it slowed down my purchase that day. The crash might have been coincidence. But it didn't like two cards next to each other.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 21:01:53 GMT
Just bought myself a budget smart phone as I wanted dual SIM capability and the regular brands do not seem to do them. So I bought the sub-brand of Huawei, called Honor (Honor 5X). It lacks NFC (not that I'm bothered) but otherwise looks beautiful and works at about 95% of the speed of a mainstream phones for 40% of the price (£180 from Amazon). After two days I'm happy.
|
|
|
|
Post by manatee on Dec 4, 2016 23:36:45 GMT
Huawei P9 I quite like it so far, bit early to say for sure. Quite different to the Samsung Galaxy S5. I've just got a P9, quite impressed. The only thing that didn't impress me was that there was no "app drawer" or app list. The Huawei's interface is very Apple-like, so, like Apple, every app has an icon on the home page(s). That's a lot of icons once I have added the apps I want. I've sorted that by using a different launcher "Action Launcher 3". AL3 restores the app drawer button bottom centre of the dock, and also has a full app list that can be swiped to from the leftmost home screen (by default the main one). As a bonus and among some other nice features, the paid version (£4 odd) also offers "covers" as an alternative to folders - pressing the icon fires up the first app, or swiping up opens the folder. There are some neat tricks you can do with this, such as using the dialler icon as a cover and putting a dozen or so favourite contact shortcuts under it. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 0:37:19 GMT
Android 7.0 and EMUI 5.0 (you currently have 6.0 & 4.1) include many things, including App drawers. They will be coming to your phone within the next few weeks.
|
|
|
|
Post by manatee on Dec 5, 2016 13:29:57 GMT
Ah, right, thanks. I've just looked up the articles and youtube vids. The app list is identical to Action Launcher, which I may stick with if the update doesn't have something like the 'covers' function which already feels natural.
I've also just read a 'review' of the Honor 8 which is extremely similar to the P9. Apparently Honor is the trendy 'millennials' sub-brand of Huawei, so I should probably have got one of those...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 13:49:46 GMT
One of the things that EMUI 5.0 has, which I think will be very useful, will be the ability to run more than one instance of a program. So for example; Facebook, where I look after more than one ID, is an arse. However, with 5.1 I will be able to log into multiple IDs at the same time. That'll make life simpler.
Though obviously yet to see how it works in the real world.
Overall I am impressed with the P9. The only thing I am not entirely chuffed with is the camera. The one on the Samsung S5 was far superior, and 4MP more. I am undecided how much that bothers me at the moment. Strangely the S7 only has a 12mp camera also. I wonder why.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 14:08:22 GMT
I've had a Huawei P8 for over a year, one of the best bits of tech I've ever owned, if not the best. Near flawless. Is this Honor brand just obsolete handsets with a different badge, i.e. is an Honor 8 just a Huawei P8, now that there's a Huawei P9 I wonder?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 14:11:05 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 14:16:12 GMT
Ah, snot the same thing then. Weird to notice that the P9 has a lower res camera than the P8.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 14:19:05 GMT
I know. And correspondingly the Galaxy S5 has 16mp and the S7, supposedly the way forward, has 12mp.
I don't know why.
And certainly what I do notice is that with the S5 I had been able to take photographs of No. 2 in the orchestra and later edit/zoom it to just a picture of her, and ditto for No. 1 when she's singing, well 12mp just isn't very good for that.
|
|
