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Post by bromptonaut on Sept 21, 2016 21:29:33 GMT
The Lad and his GF have flown out to Carcasonne for a few days with his Uncle who has a place out there. Left his recently acquired 2009 Pug 107 with me together with list of 'please Dad will you..' tasks.
Aside from cleaning these involve (a) getting it checked over by my local French Car specialist (b) sourcing tyres to replace the mixed bag of ditchfinders it came with. Spice added to latter task by his kerbing habit - currently earning a living delivering Dominos Pizzas.
Driven it to work and back a couple of times to get feel for any faults.
First impression is I wouldn't want one of my own. It's a 998cc 3 cyl petrol and with 25yrs of diesels behind me I stall the B thing with monotonous regularity. Won't pull the skin off a milk pudding unless you thrash it. Noisy on pick up from idle but actually quite relaxed cruising at 60 on the M1 access link. Rubbery gear change and steering that's the antithesis of the good old BL Mini which was last car of this size I drove regularly. Controls are obviously different to the Roomie but they don't follow same PSA protocols as the XAntia and Berlingos either. Still don't understand the audio or H&V controls.
OTOH it's come from Liverpool to Northampton with Mr Clod Foot on accelerator and only used an eighth of it's miniscule tank. Excellent all round visubility and you could almost get two of them in my habitual spot in the car park the office give us passes for.
Garage gave it a clean bill of health and four BF Goodrich tyres are well under £200.
But if I was in market for car that size I'd prefer the Skoda Citigo I had as a courtesy car while the Roomie was serviced.
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Post by Rob on Sept 21, 2016 21:40:53 GMT
The Up!Citygo/Mii are a generation ahead I suppose - I'd prefer any of them over a 107 too.
Shame the Up! is called the Up! too. It should be the Lupo. But I won't be a bore and tell you why if you didn't know.
Sounds like the Pug 107 is doing fine. Especially as it's not on it's ditch finder tyres.
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Post by Avant on Sept 21, 2016 21:42:21 GMT
Good news that it's been given a clean bill of health by your garage: that might seem a bit of luck given that it's a 7-year-old French car, but of course it isn't really French, and one hopes that as the Aygo comes down the same assembly line, Toyota will have had something to do with quality control. I think they're made somewhere in central Europe.
My daughter and I had a good test drive in an Aygo when another Yaris would have cost too much: she went for a Hyundai i10 1.2 which is much livelier. As is the Citigo, even the 59 bhp version. A 74 bhp Citigo is a possibility to replace SWMBO's Mini next year - definitely nippier than the Mini (a 1.6 Cooper Roadster) on short journeys. The forthcoming 89 bhp Up might be tempting.
Edit - seeing Rob's post, I've often wondered why the Lupo got a good press, and the Up a very good one, yet the intervening Fox was unloved. I'd have been surprised if VW had reverted to Lupo - was there a reason why they might have done?
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Post by Rob on Sept 21, 2016 21:46:01 GMT
I've had a few i10's (current and previous models) in Greece. On windy roads where top speed is not an issue... really good cars.
Would I personally want a 107/Aygo/i10/etc. on a motorway in the UK - no way. Too small and too underpowered.
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Post by WDB on Sept 22, 2016 20:43:29 GMT
It should be the Lupo. But I won't be a bore and tell you why if you didn't know. Would be more of a bore if you told us and we did all know. I have no idea. VW revived the Jetta name after Vento and Bora failed to catch on, so why not Lupo? And does delivering pizzas get him one of those magnetic (presumably) roof ornaments? Round here they seem to transform ordinary drivers into utter dicks. I found one reversing gratuitously towards me along a single-track road the other week.
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Post by Humph on Sept 22, 2016 20:49:26 GMT
You've got hand it to the Italians, getting people to pay that sort of money for cheese on toast.
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Post by WDB on Sept 22, 2016 20:58:16 GMT
Not sure they really have. As with the espresso, the Italian version is hearty and cheap; it's the Americans that have done all the unnecessary 'value add'. I hate Starbucks.
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Post by Humph on Sept 22, 2016 21:02:29 GMT
Bit like kebabs then I suppose.
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Post by Hofmeister on Sept 22, 2016 21:15:55 GMT
Bit like kebabs then I suppose. you have cheese on your kebabs?
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Post by Rob on Sept 22, 2016 21:32:04 GMT
It should be the Lupo. But I won't be a bore and tell you why if you didn't know. Would be more of a bore if you told us and we did all know. I have no idea. VW revived the Jetta name after Vento and Bora failed to catch on, so why not Lupo? Okay I'll bore you. VW has been known to use codenames for 'concept' cars which are derived from the real model name. So the current Scirocco was revealed as the Iroc. The Up! is the replacement to the Fox which in turn replaced the Lupo. So the Up! reference eluded to a new Lupo but we got it as the Up! And you all know that they like to name cars after winds. So the Jetta was replaced by a Vento which was replaced by the Bora.... and then they went back to Jetta because it was always a more popular car than the replacements if you what I mean. And of course we have the Passat in it's 8th generation and that has remained popular - Passat is German for trade wind. Why VW in the USA called the Golf the Rabbit for the Mk I and Mk V... not really sure. Maybe because the Beetle was popular?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 21:36:50 GMT
.. it's the Americans that have done all the unnecessary 'value add'... Which is why you'll find a bloody McDonalds opposite Duomo di Milano.
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Post by Hofmeister on Sept 22, 2016 21:39:49 GMT
.. it's the Americans that have done all the unnecessary 'value add'... Which is why you'll find a bloody McDonalds opposite Duomo di Milano. It was hidden up an arcade the last time I was there. Classy one tho. Not like ours.
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Post by Hofmeister on Sept 22, 2016 21:40:52 GMT
Would be more of a bore if you told us and we did all know. I have no idea. VW revived the Jetta name after Vento and Bora failed to catch on, so why not Lupo? Okay I'll bore you. Rob, you have excelled yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 21:48:25 GMT
Which is why you'll find a bloody McDonalds opposite Duomo di Milano. It was hidden up an arcade the last time I was there. Classy one tho. Not like ours. It is in the arcade but what do you call 'Classy'. Can I get a 'Filetto al Funghi' in there?
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Post by Hofmeister on Sept 22, 2016 21:52:04 GMT
It was hidden up an arcade the last time I was there. Classy one tho. Not like ours. It is in the arcade but what do you call 'Classy'. Can I get a 'Filetto al Funghi' in there? It was one of the first with black and gold colour scheme menus on tables, and the burgers served in Focaccia.
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