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Post by WDB on Sept 21, 2024 13:53:15 GMT
S’pose you could always get out through the sunroof... No need. Frameless windows, y'see. |
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Post by bpg on Sept 21, 2024 15:03:13 GMT
If the door won't open how is going out the window going to help or are you going up and over walking across the roof ?
Bit knackered if the car next to you also has frameless windows or is a convertible. The window flex will kickoff alarms.
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Post by WDB on Sept 21, 2024 15:36:26 GMT
Eh?
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Post by bpg on Sept 21, 2024 15:56:56 GMT
You park in a space between two cars, can't open the doors, Humph said go out through the sunroof, you said you'd go out through frameless windows. To do that you'd be touching the adjacent car, a frameless windows on an adjacent car would flex and trigger the alarm. |
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Post by Rob on Sept 21, 2024 16:33:03 GMT
I am assuming WDB is referring to the fact with a frameless window there is nothing above the metal to block part of your exit for the top part of your body. But you still need enough space to open the door wide enough to get the lower part of your body around the door.
I didn't think he was referring to climbing out of the window with the door closed because it's mostly irrelevant having frameless f the door remained closed. Having lots of glass depth would make the window opening bigger.
I always try my best to park in the centre of parking spaces and assume the cars either side will be different on your return. Pointless thinking a car is further over so there's plenty of space to get out because you might not get back in later.
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Post by bpg on Sept 21, 2024 16:39:34 GMT
Parking spaces are so narrow these days I offset my car leaving me space assuming the car next to me will be on the line or in the bay I'm parked in. Passengers get in when I've reversed out.
Edit: while I could exit my car through the sunroof and close it remotely, coming back to the car I'd still need to go in through the windows as the roof only tilts with remote opening. That would need me to sit on the roof of the adjacent car. You don't want to put pressure on the lower edge of the window, it's only a thin sliver of metal holding the frame where the window disappears into the door.
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Post by Humph on Sept 21, 2024 19:22:03 GMT
Erm, I was sort of y’know, “joking”…
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 21, 2024 19:54:25 GMT
And of course my I5 has remote parking, saving all this problem in the first place...
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 21, 2024 19:55:19 GMT
I did think about the iD Buzz but that is as pointless to me as an iX despite being more 'interesting'.
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Post by bpg on Sept 21, 2024 22:33:49 GMT
How does that i5 work with no mobile signal ?
4th year service on the KIA and sounds are already being made about licence fees beyond the 7 years. What's Hyundai and BMWs view or is the idea to continue renewing every 3 years? Not really saving the planet if a new car has to be chucked out every three years to replace 1.5-2m new cars sold every year for one small market.
Sounds to me like an expensive 70k mobile phone. Obviously if you're happy on the three year mega bucks (top of the depreciation curve) churn not an issue, What's the future for owner two and three?
I suspect until someone comes out with a clear statement then EV sales to the non-early adopters will always stall.
I'm keeping my cockroach Volvo. No modems, no connectivity. Stick an E6 exhaust on it, E7 brake pads and tyres should see me out.
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Post by Rob on Sept 21, 2024 22:55:12 GMT
The 330e I had with the professional nav system had free 4G data from the car for remote access, Spotify, etc. for 3 years. Then you had to pay. I presume most EVs are the same and if you don't pay they lose a lot of functionality from the app like scheduled charging. Fine if you only keep for 3 years.
How long I keep the Mazda6 I'm not sure. But I went for a 2.5GT because it is non-turbo and torque converter. Whether I'd have been better with the 2.2d equivalent I'm not sure. But the Mazda6 diesel I had from 2007 to 2011 had the trick of the DPF injecting diesel into the exhaust which ended up in the engine. And going petrol in most other cars meant turbo for sure and probably dual clutch.
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Post by EspadaIII on Sept 22, 2024 9:54:45 GMT
My remote parking works via the key fob; no mobile service required. No idea about the rest of the stuff.
Saw my first advert today for Hyundai approved second hand EVs which come with five year warranties. Makes sense given that the first I5s were sold in mid 2021 and are now coming off lease. I could be tempted.
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Post by WDB on Sept 22, 2024 11:08:41 GMT
Yes, there’ll be some excellent used buys among those. Most of the bleating that ‘EVs are too expensive’ can be rephrased as ‘EVs are too new’. Most buyers don’t buy new cars of any type, so it was just a matter of giving the market time for mid-priced options to fall within reach, which is what’s now happening with things like the Ioniq 5 and the Enyaq.
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Post by bpg on Sept 22, 2024 15:24:44 GMT
The too expensive argument is aimed more at the likes of Porsche Taycan. £160,000 cars brand new which company owners could write off the value of on day 1. Come end of lease dropping between £80,000 and £100,000 with no market for second buyers. What are the dealers to do with these cars ?
Wrt i5, EV6 etc, excellent cars but if there's no market someone is going to get hit with depreciation. Once a product gets a reputation, see Taycan, then mud sticks whether it's justified or not.
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Post by WDB on Sept 22, 2024 16:02:12 GMT
Why do you suppose there’ll be no market, other than oil industry disinformation about the long-term viability of EVs?
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