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Post by dixinormus on Mar 13, 2022 8:42:22 GMT
Solar panels in Manchester! Didn’t realise that global warming had got that bad.
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Post by bromptonaut on Mar 14, 2022 8:44:43 GMT
News the morning is that as well as having another go at replacing Wylfa with new nuclear capacity BoJo is also to have another push on domestic solar. While the main pitch of my roof is useless as facing NE maybe I could get something in bite size chunks on other parts?
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Post by Alanović on Mar 14, 2022 9:02:58 GMT
Got any links about the domestic solar thing yet Brompters? I are interest. I expect it'll be some complex bloody scheme with all sorts of gotchas of course. I have a large, shallow pitch, due south facing roof on one side of my house. It would be ideal for solar. Actaully, maybe I should look into solar hot water...it'll be expensive of course and pay back in 10+ years so probably won't be worth the bother for me. It's all so ruddy frustrating. So much I could and indeed should do but the money never works out. Oh well at least the EV worked out for me, but again, with solar, it could be doing so much better.
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Post by bromptonaut on Mar 14, 2022 10:09:26 GMT
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Post by WDB on Mar 14, 2022 10:28:16 GMT
What’s the Telegraph making of that, I wonder?
Ah yes, the ever-inspirational Kwasi Kwarteng tells us:
This is no longer about tackling climate change or reaching net-zero targets. Ensuring the UK’s clean energy independence is a matter of national security.
Well, no. But if it is now then it always should have been. So who’s been asleep at the wheel for the last 12 years?
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 14, 2022 11:51:07 GMT
Everyone pretty much irrelevant of political colour - just look at Europe.
I was discussing the Ukraine issue and in particular the refugee crisis and we looked at the population densities of the various European countries. The UK has twice the population density of France, so it is harder for us to be self-sufficient in food or 'green' energy as we don't have the space for all the agriculture and wind/solar farms and nice countryside we would like to have or need. And then on top of that we want to be 'green'.
I wish we would get amove on with these refugees.. There are so many jobs waiting for people who have reasonable English skills and a willingness to work. I would employ someone now if they also had a driving licence.
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Post by EspadaIII on Mar 15, 2022 9:12:36 GMT
Grrrr.. Espadrille, thinking that at first light there was enough power from the panels to the energise the world, put the dishwasher and washing machine on. We used 42p of grid electricity in one hour, whereas had she waited until 8am, we would have used almost none...
I am getting to be a meter bore... Can't wait for the battery to arrive so we can revert to not thinking about when we use electricity.
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Post by Alanović on Mar 15, 2022 9:22:54 GMT
I'm looking at switching to an Octopus EV tariff now, it might work out cheaper for me. It will have a cheap rate of 7p per kwh from 00.30 to 04.30, which will usually be enough time to top up the car battery to 100% every night - I experimented last night by setting the car's charging timer to that period, and when I got in it this morning it had replenished the battery from 67% to 100%. I'll also then use the timer delays on the dishwasher and washing machine and get a bit more organised about using them, and try to dry clothing outside when possible. Well, I will, but like you say EIII, there are other users who seem to find these things difficult to comprehend in most households...
Sadly the biggest problem is the gas price, but there isn't anything I can do about that without spending thousnads of pounds other than drop the thermostat a degree or so, which I've already done, and try to get the hot water timing just right to not heat too much water.
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Post by Rob on Mar 15, 2022 9:39:02 GMT
I wouldn't put our dishwasher (fairly new) on overnight whilst sleeping. Dishwashers and tumble dryers are two of the big causes of fires. In the case of dishwashers, it's due to the wires to the controls that are almost always on the door. Continous bending ultimately leads to broken wires.
Saving a few quid a week doesn't seem worth it.
Al, what is the daily standing charge on Octopus EV by the way? Although you've been hit by a move from your old supplier already haven't you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 10:02:27 GMT
>>I wouldn't put our dishwasher (fairly new) on overnight whilst sleeping. Dishwashers and tumble dryers are two of the big causes of fires. In the case of dishwashers, it's due to the wires to the controls that are almost always on the door. Continous bending ultimately leads to broken wires.
It would seem that the most common cause is cooking appliances (48.3%) and the most common time is in December between 6pm and 8pm.
In total, all other electrical appliances totalled 12%.
So whilst I take your point, if I had a new, good condition dishwasher and washing machine (I do) and had good and sufficient smoke detectors (I do) then I wouldn't worry about a dishwasher at night (I don't).
It's not like one stands by them all day when they're running, kind of unlikely that I'd even be in the same room, so I'd still be relying on smoke detectors and electrical protection.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 10:03:39 GMT
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Post by Alanović on Mar 15, 2022 10:18:04 GMT
I wouldn't put our dishwasher (fairly new) on overnight whilst sleeping. Dishwashers and tumble dryers are two of the big causes of fires. In the case of dishwashers, it's due to the wires to the controls that are almost always on the door. Continous bending ultimately leads to broken wires. Saving a few quid a week doesn't seem worth it. Al, what is the daily standing charge on Octopus EV by the way? Although you've been hit by a move from your old supplier already haven't you. I've rung Octopus and signed up with them for Octopus Go - their EV tariff. My existing supplier was going to be, from 1st April, standing charge 43.39p. Octopus is 24.11p. However, the Octopus daytime unit rate is 30.61p vs EDF at 28.46p. Overnight though the Octopus rate is 7.5p. I use about 30kwh to charge the car every day, so I reckon I'll be better off overall. Either way, my monthly DD is now £335, with worse to come in October. My dishwasher is fairly new, but it appears it doesn't have a timer delay. Rats. The washing machine is also quite new, and does. The tumble dryer has no delay either. So it'll be overnight laundry followed by outdoor drying from now on, I'm not staying up until 12.30am to switch the dishwasher on! I go to bed by 9pm these days. Next job, install a washing line. Back to the 70s!
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Post by WDB on Mar 15, 2022 10:31:57 GMT
Nothing old-fashioned about a washing line. Electric dryers are a crime against just about everything — not to mention a far greater fire hazard than a dishwasher.
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Post by WDB on Mar 15, 2022 10:50:35 GMT
It does. And I went to the .gov.uk datasets referenced there. Domestic fires in general are down by a third since 2010-11, but the big decreases were in deliberate fires (which dropped right off in 2020-21, as people decided not to burn down the home they were confined to) and those related to appliances. Counting only the accidental fires, there was a fall of 13,000 in those ten years, and almost 9,000 of that was because of fewer appliance fires. In other words, while accidental fires in general decreased by 29 percent, appliance fires fell by 39 percent. My guess is that a big factor in this is the universality of moulded plugs on mains leads, so we no longer have to fit our own and risk getting it wrong. But also dishwashers. I run mine at night when it suits me.
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Post by Alanović on Mar 15, 2022 10:55:47 GMT
Indeed. Indeed. Someone in this house likes their clothes and towels to be tumble dryer fluffy though. Next battleground approaches...
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